I believe one of Paul's parents was a Roman citizen (father?) so yes, he could legitimately claim Roman citizenship. Of course, THIS thread is not about that so let's not let it get diverted off-topic. :)
Georgiegirl
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WTS attends as a NGO to OSCE in July- 4 branches present!
by yknot inso i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
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My JW parents met my wife, but would not see me...
by Confession inso it was time for the 25 year reunion of tawas area high school's class of '84.
because i was class president, i've been responsible for throwing all the reunions we've held.
while i come to michigan on business a few times per year, i don't usually make it all the way up to the little, northeast, lake huron tourist town where they live.
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Georgiegirl
For me personally, what was moving about your story was your wife's actions - your motives and actions are your own and no one but you can fully understand them b/c you are the only one who has walked your particular path. However, she walked into the house of complete strangers with hurtful beliefs that are skewed and causing damage to the one she loves - and she was willing to that with love and kindness and openness. Keep her happy - you've got a good one! :)
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Is Spike Tassel a resurrected DEF'D?
by AK - Jeff inthose who have been on here a few years, do you recognise the same style?
same refusal to answer intelligently those questions that deal with legitimate issues regarding the wts.
same intentional ignoring of those who he fears will ask those questions.
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Georgiegirl
I don't know either, but there is another Spike Tassel over on the Other forum who claims to be a "non-practicing homosexual". One and the same? Who knows. Certainly an interesting combination tho - "a non-practicing homosexual with asperger's syndrome". . . not enough therapy in the world....
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My JW parents met my wife, but would not see me...
by Confession inso it was time for the 25 year reunion of tawas area high school's class of '84.
because i was class president, i've been responsible for throwing all the reunions we've held.
while i come to michigan on business a few times per year, i don't usually make it all the way up to the little, northeast, lake huron tourist town where they live.
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Georgiegirl
Not only do I think that was completely lovely on your part (to have made the effort and set the right example of unconditional love), but your wife sounds like a wonderfully kind, loving, and giving woman. How spectacular that she was willing to do that - both for you and for your parents.
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Jehovah's Witnesses "snapping" under pressure, their flawed doctrine must be sending people "over the edge"!
by the research lady inin the last year the watchtower's public relations department is being inundated with inquiries concerning jehovah's witnesses and their bizarre behaviour.
the recent murder and cannabalism of a three week old baby is the latest in a series of ongoing horrific news articles linking jehovah's witnesses to acts of violent crimes.
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/408515_baby28.html?source=mypi what is causing these problems?
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Georgiegirl
KKMan - I am well aware of Dr. Jerry Bergman and would encourage everyone to examine his credentials as I would encourage everyone to examine anyone's credentials with whom they work. I would also encourage them to examine the studies that have been done for veracity and scientific integrity as I would with any studies presented as fact. Post partum depression and schizophrenia is NOT a direct result of being a JW. To my knowledge, none of us have seen her medical records, worked with her directly, or have any firsthand knowledge of this situation. What happened was tragic, devastating, and mind-boggling.
I do not dispute the fact that Witnesses face incredible difficulty due to the controlling aspects of this organization. As has been said on more than one occasion, there is no way to leave with dignity. However, sensationalizing and providing false and misleading insinuations does not lend any dignity either and I truly believe it does far more damage and actually helps the organization survive as it lends credence to the Watchtower's statements about apostates.
Furthermore, I resent the phrase "your Jehovah's Witness friends" as I am not a Witness now, nor do I support this organization - far from it. I was born in and still have family in. It was a nasty little insinuation - but that honestly does not surprise me.
Everyone does what they can to the best of their ability in trying to help others. I draw the line when false or unsubstantiated ridiculous stories are presented as fact as seems to be becoming the norm. It ruins credibility and becomes one more thing to overcome when trying to help others out of the organization. I will not comment again on this thread as neither do I choose to participate in ongoing debates as we have seen on this forum as of late. It is not productive but destructive.
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Jehovah's Witnesses "snapping" under pressure, their flawed doctrine must be sending people "over the edge"!
by the research lady inin the last year the watchtower's public relations department is being inundated with inquiries concerning jehovah's witnesses and their bizarre behaviour.
the recent murder and cannabalism of a three week old baby is the latest in a series of ongoing horrific news articles linking jehovah's witnesses to acts of violent crimes.
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/408515_baby28.html?source=mypi what is causing these problems?
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Georgiegirl
Agree w/ Blondie & Purps - schizophrenia and post partum depression has NOTHING, repeat NOTHING to do with being a JW. This kind of insinuation irritates the hell out of me. It's irresponsible, sensationalistic and does absolutely nothing but confirm that "apostates" are "lying" and closes the minds and eyes of JWs who potentially could open their minds to cult they are in. IT. DOES.NOT.HELP.
Is this a harmful mind-controlling organization? Absolutely. And those of us who are quietly working in the background to help those who are exiting are well aware of it. But these kind of off-the-wall blatantly ridiculous insinuations do far more harm than good. My dearest wish would be that these sensationalist and misleading "conference calls" would stop.
There. I've said it. I've avoided these threads and putting this out here for over a year now. Flame away.
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just a moment to vent por favor
by homeschool ini'm having my sister over this weekend to hang out and bake (i know, i'm such a party animal .
i have nothing against this friend of my sisters, so i don't want to make a fuss.
i think what's pissing me off is the double standard that just happened.
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Georgiegirl
Why don't you just invite one of YOUR friends to come over, too? Make the point without saying a word.
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The most absurd comments yet about oral sex !!!
by Sour Grapes ini visited a kh today with my wife and the brother who gave the public talk.
said that there is so much unnatural use of the sex organs by the world's.
youth, that the medical field is encouraging all parents with children 12 years.
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Georgiegirl
Whew. Good thing I won't get mouth cancer! I was too busy going blind from masturbating, darn it.
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two witness ruling ?
by KAYTEE inif a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.
if not........................ kt.
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Georgiegirl
To answer the ORIGINAL question (geez, people!) yes, the two witness rule still applies unless there is a confession or clear "evidence" (I use the term loosely) such as two witnesses observing someone spending the night at someone else's house.
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How's Your Love Life?
by minimus inare you happily "in love" with someone?.
are you in a relationship that isn't the greatest?.
do you think your love life could drastically improve?.
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Georgiegirl
Muuuuwaaaahahahahahhaa - FABULOUS. I had NO idea what it could be like... My love life rocks my world.