Anyone have it and use it? I would imagine CS3 would be similar. I'm laying out a book for a client and have a question. Just thought on the off-chance...
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i would imagine cs3 would be similar.
i'm laying out a book for a client and have a question.
just thought on the off-chance....
Anyone have it and use it? I would imagine CS3 would be similar. I'm laying out a book for a client and have a question. Just thought on the off-chance...
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this is just an obsevation from me...ok i dont mean to annoy anyone but is it true or just me?.
i feel that ones raised in the truth are so much better of than us who came in from the world.
i say that because they have family who are witnesses too.
ATJ - you were born in, right? I wish I had had the guts to rebel too. If I had only known THEN what I know now - but when you are indoctrinated from birth...it's tough to make that break.
this is just an obsevation from me...ok i dont mean to annoy anyone but is it true or just me?.
i feel that ones raised in the truth are so much better of than us who came in from the world.
i say that because they have family who are witnesses too.
zugswang - YES! My personal favs:
your, you're
their, they're, there
and the one guaranteed to make me howl with irritation:
"probs"
I don't know why, but I want to shake my monitor when I see that. What, you can't type probably? WHICH is singular so should never have an S?
I'm annoyed. ;)
what things about elders do only elders know and the rest of us dont?
i never knew they had a hand book till i came on here.
unsure why they dont mention it because surely its not meant to be a secret?.
AE - answered your question on the previous page - I think it hadn't shown up yet.
this is just an obsevation from me...ok i dont mean to annoy anyone but is it true or just me?.
i feel that ones raised in the truth are so much better of than us who came in from the world.
i say that because they have family who are witnesses too.
In all fairness, THAT was a fairly accurate observation. If you are not born in, a time comes when a JW quits "wasting their time". Either put up or shut up (i.e. get baptized and make progress or get dropped). If you are born in, you don't have that same 6 month - 18 month "unspoken" timeframe. On the other hand, if you are born in, you do have to at least be old enough to get baptized - (what is that now? 8??? - shaking head) so there's some built-in extra time.
I think the point is that it IS different if you are born in vs coming in.
what things about elders do only elders know and the rest of us dont?
i never knew they had a hand book till i came on here.
unsure why they dont mention it because surely its not meant to be a secret?.
i had a brother approach me once to tell me i was too friendly.
i had the habit of greeting everyone i could in the time provided before the meeting.
it was done sincerely and with personal interest.
Blondie - wow, that and the other thread just brought back a memory I had totally forgotten - I had entered my teenage years and was FINALLY (oh the excitement!) allowed to wear make-up. My molester came up to me in the KH and criticized me for looking "too old". Guess I didn't have that fresh baby-faced look anymore. I remember just feeling physically ill.
i had a brother approach me once to tell me i was too friendly.
i had the habit of greeting everyone i could in the time provided before the meeting.
it was done sincerely and with personal interest.
palmtree - HA! I think it was just the fact that I smiled instead of casting my eyes down demurely and genuflecting like a good submissive sister whenever a brother walked by!!! ;)
what things about elders do only elders know and the rest of us dont?
i never knew they had a hand book till i came on here.
unsure why they dont mention it because surely its not meant to be a secret?.
AE - they can keep him on as an elder because the organization allows them to do so.
GG - I can only answer your question from what I knew before - any of the current elders on the board might have a more accurate answer. Typically the elders would want her to study again with someone they consider spiritually strong. Who she wants to study with her is irrelevant, by the way. This is because the "truth" is constantly changing so what she was taught all those years ago is more than likely, not the current teachings. Unless she was d/f'd or d/a'd, I don't think they can keep her from the ministry, although they will probably assign her a partner at first. They will probably also want to ascertain her current status (i.e. has she re-married, b/f, etc.) And they could, in fact, disfellowship her NOW that she's going back if they feel she committed adultery in the past and hid it and was not properly punished for it.
Each case is different because of the circumstances.
what things about elders do only elders know and the rest of us dont?
i never knew they had a hand book till i came on here.
unsure why they dont mention it because surely its not meant to be a secret?.
You know...that's a tough question. I personally know some of the GB (or knew - heh) so it's hard to reconcile the "little old men loving Jehovah" image with the facts. Giving them the benefit of the doubt with the two-witness policy - and assuming they never originally thought about the fact that it could be used as a loophole for pedophiles - the FACTS show that they were later clearly informed what was going on AND POLICY DIDN'T CHANGE, and didn't really change until the monetary settlements. That in and of itself is more than enough to show me that these decisions are not spirit directed.
If you are referring to the organization as everyone that is a JW, no, certainly not. I really believe the vast majority are misguided and true believers. They are in a cult. They want to love God and serve Him, and got caught up in a cult and don't know it. I can't blame them for that.
If you are referring to the organization as the administrative structure that runs things, and makes and enforces the rules? Then yes. I blame them for not doing the right thing. If they are truly shepherds who weep when sheep are "skinned and thrown about" - this policy would NOT be in place.
Does that makes sense, Clarinetist?