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  Self-deception & delusion. Can U guess the source of this quote?

  by Open mind in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "...very often the person who is deceived or deluded tends to hold on to his belief in spite of strong evidence proving otherwise.

  perhaps he gets so emotionally attached to his belief that he simply shuts his eyes and closes his ears to any evidence that might challenge it.".

  an extra week of everlasting life goes to the first person who can guess the source of this quote.. .

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  Georgiegirl

  @ Mary - well, at least you know what you'll be doing the first couple decades! ;)
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  How do I tell my elderly JW mother that...?

  by onemore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife asked me last night: how do i tell my mother that we have been living a lie?

  then she said: she is in her 70s, all of her friends are jws, she has a routine, things to do that keeps her busy every day, field service, meetings, visiting her jw friends, assemblies, etc.

  why spoil that to her?

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  Georgiegirl

  Not sure why you would tell her?? At this stage in her life, carefully consider whether or not it would be cruel to strip away a belief system...take away her friends, her emotional security and social structure...for what, exactly? I would feel totally differently if this was a young family member, and only you know her best, but sometimes I think it is kinder and more loving to preserve the illusion at this stage in the game. Take care of her and protect her and love her but (in my opinion and who knows if it's right! :) ) - why do something that has the potential to confuse and devastate her this late in life?

  Now...if she happens to be one of those rare mid 70 year olds who is out participating in triatholons and it looks like she's going to be around another 30 years - I reserve the right to change my opinion. :)
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  How squeamish are you?

  by Gregor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lets say you are enjoying a glass of good red wine while preparing dinner.

  you pick up your glass for a sip and see a gnat floating on top.

  1. pour the whole thing in the sink and pour a fresh one.. 2. pick out the gnat and drink the wine.. 3. ignore it and drink the wine and the gnat.. i am a 2. i have done a 3 and it didn't spoil my appetite.. .

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  Georgiegirl

  @serenitynow - yep - they make beer at Bethel now. It's called ..."Bethel Lite"

  (ok, now I'm scaring myself at how quickly these are coming back to me)
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  How squeamish are you?

  by Gregor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lets say you are enjoying a glass of good red wine while preparing dinner.

  you pick up your glass for a sip and see a gnat floating on top.

  1. pour the whole thing in the sink and pour a fresh one.. 2. pick out the gnat and drink the wine.. 3. ignore it and drink the wine and the gnat.. i am a 2. i have done a 3 and it didn't spoil my appetite.. .

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  Georgiegirl

  Doesn't this remind anyone of that JW joke that's made the rounds?

  A Bethelite, a pioneer and a publisher walk into a bar and order a beer.

  The publisher looks at his beer and says, Bartender! There's a fly in my beer! Bring me another!

  The pioneer looks at his beer, fishes out the fly, shakes off the excess and drinks his beer.

  And the Bethelite grabs the fly by the neck and says, Spit it Out! Spit it Out!

  (sigh. oh what passed for humor in the good old days. ;) )
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  What Do You Do For Exercise?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the summer i play outdoor tennis nearly everyday for about an hour and a half.

  i'm going to resume racquetball in the winter which is great for cardio!.

  what's your exercise pattern like?.

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  Georgiegirl

  I run 5-6/mornings a week; 2 miles. I need to add some weight training in there, but my schedule is tight as it is. I'm lucky to get in 2 miles!
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  Pagan Origins

  by brotherdan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so all of us that grew up as witnesses never did certain things because of them having pagan origins.

  why don't we celebrate christmas?

  pagan origins.

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  Georgiegirl

  Regardless of whether you are a "young earth creationist" or not, "paganism" predates Christianity no matter how you look at it. Ergo, most things customs/religions/rituals/holidays have a "pagan" origin. My question is, why is that so bad? I wish I could find this book a friend of mine had, but I can't (in case anyone knows of it). It took the major teachings of all religions and compared them side by side (example, "the golden rule" or the quote about Love in Corinthians) and you know what? Surprise, surprise, ALL of the religions' holy books had similar quotes - well before the bible was written.

  I think your question is sound. Why WOULD any of these things be dangerous to a Christian?
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  Taliban Executes Pregnant Widow

  by Bangalore in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_212316676.shtml.

  http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0809/breaking15.html.

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7935362/taliban-death-squad-kills-a-pregnant-woman-after-public-flogging.html.

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  @Mary - hands you the baseball bat! (although I have to admit - up the side of his head is probably where I'd end up, not where I'd start.)

  I couldn't agree more with everything you just said. I agree - no religion should be enmeshed in government - drives me nuts when the moral majority tries to do it in the U.S. (remember the Texas schoolboard controversy???).

  Anyway - I didn't mean to jump all over anyone - I think it was an ongoing reaction to a political science class I'm taking where everyone who is non-Christian is Bad and Evil and Islam is a Tool of Satan (according to my fundie and not very bright classmate). Everything and everyone that doesn't fit into this neat little box of Christianity is Wrong. You can only imagine the condemnation of all Muslims that goes on. It's scary and it's hateful and it's making me slightly batty.
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  Taliban Executes Pregnant Widow

  by Bangalore in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_212316676.shtml.

  http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0809/breaking15.html.

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7935362/taliban-death-squad-kills-a-pregnant-woman-after-public-flogging.html.

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  Georgiegirl

  @Mary - I'm totally ok with agreeing to disagree (isn't freedom of thought wonderful??!!!).

  Frankly, I find danger in most religions and that includes Christianity. However, I also know many Muslims and have studied Islam (not in depth, but as part of a couple of courses at University). The politicalization of the religion is indeed harmful. What disturbs and distresses me is the willingness that people have to utterly and arbitrarily condemn everyone belonging to a certain belief system, and I believe that is wrong. And yes, the Taliban IS very cult-like; it's not just "poor leadership" within Islam.
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  Taliban Executes Pregnant Widow

  by Bangalore in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_212316676.shtml.

  http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0809/breaking15.html.

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7935362/taliban-death-squad-kills-a-pregnant-woman-after-public-flogging.html.

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  Georgiegirl

  @ ak-Jeff. Thank you for saying exactly what I was trying to say - only much more succintly. :)
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  Taliban Executes Pregnant Widow

  by Bangalore in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_212316676.shtml.

  http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0809/breaking15.html.

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7935362/taliban-death-squad-kills-a-pregnant-woman-after-public-flogging.html.

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  Georgiegirl

  Well, I have to admit, the Western news media is completely unbiased and neutral and only prints things that are not shocking (rolls eyes). http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100809/wl_sthasia_afp/afghanistanunrestwomenexecution

  The deputy head of the religious council for western Afghanistan, Mohammad Kabaabiani, said the execution ran counter to Islamic principles.

  Head of the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission in western Afghanistan, Abdul Qadir Rahimi, condemned the killing.

  "Any such trial is unacceptable and is a violation of human rights. All trials must take place in an authorised court observing every single measure of justice," said Rahimi.

  http://www.islamfortoday.com/taleban13.htm

  Look, I am NOT in favor of one side over the other. It just irks me when anyone makes a blanket condemnation of an entire group based on the actions of some without having a genuine knowledge of the whole. Not all Muslims kill. Not all whites lynch. Not all Catholics are pedophiles. Not all blacks are athletes. Not all Christians hate Muslims. See what I mean?

  Condemn the Taliban and how it has twisted Islam? Absolutely. I have friends from both Pakistan and Afghanistan. They are sickened by what has happened to their countries. But if you want to do something about it, then educate yourselves on how to make a difference. Here's a great place to start: http://www.halftheskymovement.org/