my neighbor near my workplace brought a piece of mail delivered to him by mistake.
he and his employee/student from his martial arts studio came by and he began preaching to me about christ.
he's a pentecostal christian who has dreams and visions of events that have supposedly happened that he prophesied beforehand.
Hold on just a minute.
He was PREACHING??? Are you sure he isn't really a JW? Cause EVERYONE knows that ONLY JWs are preaching. It's a sign they are the only true religion, you know???
I wish I had been there...I would have been laughing my a** off at your answers!!!
what publication did you study and how long was the study for??.
when i came in you were only allowed 6months, i didnt even get that lol...but was baptised after 5months.
it was so fast but i was ready for baptism.
You studied with an elder and you're a girl? I'm sorry, not buying it. Was it an elder and his wife perhaps? No elder, no matter what part of the world, would come to your house, alone, and conduct a study. No way, no how.
Also - and I'm just curious, not trying to threadjack - but is the use of "coz" instead of because and "probs" instead of probably a british thing? I noticed those terms with another british female poster as well - found it an interesting coincidence. And before anyone jumps on any wagon, I'm NOT implying or accusing anything - I'm genuinely curious. Usually Brits are super-proper when it comes to using the English language.
And to answer your question, born in, so I got to study it all.
i won't parse words.
if i continue in this situation, i'm going to be dead by my own hands.
having them in my life is getting to the point where i can't function and i will choose not to function anymore.
And I'm sorry to ask a dumb question at such a stressful time. :(
i won't parse words.
if i continue in this situation, i'm going to be dead by my own hands.
having them in my life is getting to the point where i can't function and i will choose not to function anymore.
What is ASD? I googled it and found Atrial Septal Defect (hole in your heart) but that can't be right?
i've using the jw way of thinking eg its not in the bible/ jesus never did it/ bad things are recorded as happening in the same account.
i've come to the conclusion then that the bible says it is wrong to swim.
think about it.... jesus is never mentioned as doing a couple of quick lengths!
Wow. I think my brain just stopped. That is really funny - and I can just see the confusion on someone's face if you used the swimming example. HA!
this thread contains my thoughts after having read several other threads regarding the garridos being jws.... just because it is reported that the garridos are jws doesn't mean that they are really witnesses.... they may have some link to jws such as her being rasied one, his studying while in prison or any number of possibilites where they came to know a little about jwism.. even if they were baptized along the way somewhere doesn't mean that they were active, participating members in the local congregation.. there's a lot wrong with the jw religion and it's policies have helped protect pedophiles and other sexual predators from being brought to justice but i have reservations about shouting from the rooftops that the garridos were jws, when 1) it hasn't been confirmed and 2) it really doesn't do anything to expose the wt society's culpability in covering up sexual abuse.. the garridos are truly whacked.
i'm sure that local jws are just as horrified at what's happened as the average person is.
if the garridos had any connection with a local hall, i bet that the local jws were wary of them due to his nuttiness.
Undercover, daniel - p, and skeeter (and anyone else I missed who is using reason and logic here)
Exactly. We don't know the FACTS and alot of this is supposition and embellishment about the JW connection, if there is one. Wild speculations and suppositions makes us all look like asses (am I allowed to say that here?) and desperate to cling to anything, no matter how tenous, that proves the WTBS is be harmful. Wait until the facts come out. There is enough verified craziness and harm coming out of the WTBS. They discredit themselves on their own.
i'm passing this along from someone else on another discussion board.
the claim of any substantive change in the policy on pedophiles is news to me.
can anybody verify or falsify this claim?.
Big Tex - Thank you. You have my sincere admiration and respect. I do not know what you do for a living, but I can imagine that if you chose to be, you would be an enormously effective advocate for those in need. In the posts that I have read, you consistently come across as measured and thoughtful. When you get angry, it is generally justified.
As far as procedures in place, I seriously doubt there are any. In my opinion, it was a smokescreen put in place so it could be pointed to as "proof" they are handling the issue correctly.
Pistoff - read my post. If I still had my "theocratic library", I would. I'm not going to get into a pissing contest.
i'm passing this along from someone else on another discussion board.
the claim of any substantive change in the policy on pedophiles is news to me.
can anybody verify or falsify this claim?.
(stepping VERY gingerly into the fray)
First, let me make it crystal clear that I believe THAT anyone who sexually molests a child is beyond sickening. It is vile, despicable, and unforgivable. Secondly, I WAS molested by an elder and nothing was done (and no, I am not going to elaborate - it's MY past and I prefer to leave it there). So...when I make the following statement, I am NOT defending the WTS in any way. If I hadn't smashed my CD to little pieces when I left and thrown out 25 years worth of KMs - (NOW I realize they were a treasure trove for research, unfortunately) - I would scan and print this so I will have to leave it to those who are in to provide the references.
However, protocol HAS changed since I (and many others on this board) was molested. Two eyewitnesses to DIFFERENT events can indeed testify and those two events can be taken to DF a child molester. I am making NO comment or judgement about why or as to the rightness of it, I am merely verifying the procedure.
Now...if a child molester moves to a new congregation and it was never a judicial matter and no one knows about the molestation and WHEN it occurs again, to my knowledge there is no safeguard put in place so the new congregation would know about the molestation - ergo - no previous "witness". And of course, it's the BOE who would determine the veracity of the "first" witness/ie. victim. So - there are still huge, huge, huge loopholes.
If someone wants to look it up - this "new" protocol would be in a QFR in a WT.
AGAIN. I AM NOT DEFENDING THEM.
so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.
mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.
here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.
I believe one of Paul's parents was a Roman citizen (father?) so yes, he could legitimately claim Roman citizenship. Of course, THIS thread is not about that so let's not let it get diverted off-topic. :)
so it was time for the 25 year reunion of tawas area high school's class of '84.
because i was class president, i've been responsible for throwing all the reunions we've held.
while i come to michigan on business a few times per year, i don't usually make it all the way up to the little, northeast, lake huron tourist town where they live.
For me personally, what was moving about your story was your wife's actions - your motives and actions are your own and no one but you can fully understand them b/c you are the only one who has walked your particular path. However, she walked into the house of complete strangers with hurtful beliefs that are skewed and causing damage to the one she loves - and she was willing to that with love and kindness and openness. Keep her happy - you've got a good one! :)
