Ok, I watched it and the super pioneer TJ, now I'm ready to puck my coffee back up!!!
Video #1 - Lady holding telephone, then it starts to ring That's why I just tell them to go away and put me on the "I'll shoot you if you return list"
Super pioneer TJ - TJ telling the terrorist that "one who lives by the sword die by the sword" - They don't really care they want to die!!!!
Sorry guys I can't turn off the read font
i found this website a few days ago, and ive stayed up until 3 and 4 a.m. every night since reading the all-too-familiar stories.
i applaud you for sharing your stories and being so open and caring to others who venture onto this site.
i wish id had you 9 years ago when i was dfd.
Welcome to the board
WOW, I say the same thing with every new thread I read. I can always pick out of someone's story parts that I can personally relate to. It still amazes me that so many people have been through the same thing
Stay strong and again welcome.
PS.. is your "other brother" still df'd??
i just wanted to share an encouraging thought with anyone who is struggling to fade away from the watchtower.
six years ago, when i first started posting here, i was a ministerial servant with doubts.
my wife was an active sister and my 11 and 12 year old sons were enrolled in the theocratic ministry school and going out in field service every week along with their 7 year old sister.. there has been a lot of stress and tears along the way, my wife and i often wondered what our future would bring, but i can honestly say that we have made it.
Congrats nic,
I'm happy you have your immediate family intact with you. Enjoy life now and make new memories for yourself, your wife and your kids. Know that your kids will grow up happy, well adjusted, socialized with other people and most of all able to think freely, ask questions and not be beaten down by a cult.
Always give your children the ability to be themselves, know that they will make mistakes, bad judgements, etc... but you and your wife will now be better able to help them out of bad situations and guide them to making wise choices instead of it being dictated to them and you by outsiders. Your children will be free to children, enage in sports have friends, sleep overs, boyfriends and girlfriends and be better able to handle tough situations and make informed choices. You as a parent will be able to guide them and most of all have an open relationship, make your kids know that whatever their situation they can come to you (and your wife) for straight answers from the heart and not be dragged before disaproving elders to be judged.
I have 3 wonderfull boys (24, 19, 16) they talk to me about everything, sometimes I have to remind that I am their mother and they are giving me TMI , but I'm so happy that they can and do talk to me, even the embarrassing stuff I didn't have that type of childhood, could not talk to my parents (dad elder and mom super Jdub), I made some bad choices in my teenage years and had no guidance because of this, always too scared to be brought before the elders, you know the good old fear and intimidation.
Anyway, good luck, keep us posted
Always
NJ
"how is your heart?
the heart, nevertheless, is intricately connected with the brain by the nervous system and is well supplied with sensory nerve endings.
the sensations of the heart are recorded on the brain.
Also the lost of personality is more likely from lack of oxygen to the brain therefore causing some cells to die.
"how is your heart?
the heart, nevertheless, is intricately connected with the brain by the nervous system and is well supplied with sensory nerve endings.
the sensations of the heart are recorded on the brain.
QCMBR -
Again the watchtower is WRONG - the nerves that connect the heart to brain exsist so that the brain can tell the heart to pump!!! Just has the brain tells the arms to move and the lungs to breathe!!!
When you have a spinal injury depending on where in the spinal canal the injury occurs will determine whether you will be able to breathe on your own, move your arms, legs and so forth. If you have a brain injury and the brain cannot tell your heart to pump or your lungs to breathe then you will die without life support.
Your desires, feelings and etc do not come from the heart. You may feel heartache upon loosing a loved one, or your heart may race when upset or angy or scared but this original signal comes from the brain. Getting a "new heart" does not change your personality, that originates in the brain.
This is from nursing school and experience, not the WTBTS
i just took a peek at the e-watchman site and forum... omg i have a headache.. these people are crazier than i remember, and i'm totally confused about what they are saying.
granted i did not read all of there threads, but the ones i did read made my head spin.. someone would ask a question and they'd get a (in my opinion) vague answer and suddenly it was all clear for them.
on person was asking if she should have a baby 'in these times", most of the responses were "if you feel stong enough to raise a child", type things.
Yeah, i plan to stay away.
Nutjob is putting it nice
Thanks
i just took a peek at the e-watchman site and forum... omg i have a headache.. these people are crazier than i remember, and i'm totally confused about what they are saying.
granted i did not read all of there threads, but the ones i did read made my head spin.. someone would ask a question and they'd get a (in my opinion) vague answer and suddenly it was all clear for them.
on person was asking if she should have a baby 'in these times", most of the responses were "if you feel stong enough to raise a child", type things.
I just took a peek at the e-watchman site and forum... OMG I have a headache.
These people are crazier than I remember, and I'm totally confused about what they are saying. Granted I did not read all of there threads, but the ones I did read made my head spin.
Someone would ask a question and they'd get a (in my opinion) vague answer and suddenly it was all clear for them. On person was asking if she should have a baby 'in these times", most of the responses were "if you feel stong enough to raise a child", type things. Why is everything in this cult so generic? Vague? unsatisfying? I felt like responding "have a baby if you want, you will most likley get to see grandchildren before the systems ends!!!!!! I'm 42 and the system has been ending for as long as I can remember. A elder once told me that "the new order would be here before I was out of high school" so much for that, now my kids are in college!!!
I also saw some people from this forum that have posted there and I'm not sure why they are saying one thing here and another there???!!!! I can't even bring my self to register there, their discussions are sickening!!! to say the least.
I realize that I left this cult a very long time ago (25 years ago) and there is a lot of teachings that I don't know about, hell there are things they taught when I was there that I don't know about, because I was just counting the days until I turned 18 so I could run for the hills. I have never been a true believer in this cult I was only there because I had no choice, my parents made me be a JW. I can remember being 4 or 5 and getting beatings in the bathroom because I fell asleep, or didn't follow in my magazine or bible (doesn't matter that I couldn't read) just needed to pretend i guess, or having bruises on my legs from being pinched because my brother and I were wispering, we also were made to stand(at our seat) because we couldn't stay awake, standing at age 4 for 2 hours (incredible). Being put on punishment (after a beating of course) for prentending to press a door bell while in FS...Once my older brother told my dad that he didn't want to go to the meeting, so my dad made him paint the whole outside of the house 3 story house by himself and when he finished my dad made him do it again because he saw streaks, I was very shy growing up and my mother signed me up for the ministry school, when it came time for me to give my first talk I refused to go on stage so I got a beating with the iron cord which left open sores all over my naked body, every time I saw my name on the board I'd cry, have panic attacks and could not sleep. I'd cry through the entire talk.... so stupid. I'm getting sick just thinking about all the things we went through as children being brought up in this cult.
I'm sorry I know I'm just rambling and my thoughts are all over the place, just needed to vent.
[the watchtower, july 15, 1961 issue, page 420: .
[the watchtower, july 1, 1963 issue, page 413: .
[the watchtower, july 15, 1974 issue, page 442: .
Good morning everyone, I hope you all have a wonderfull day!!
i've had in the past studied a little about the bible with jws but have yet decided to be baptised.. i've just read lavenders' moving letter to her son and her love and well being for him is very obvious.
i do like the bible teachings very much and to this day i'm very interested in the end of the system of things which will very soon come to fruition; i'm a very strong believer, however i must stipulate to all, in retrospect i'm not sinless.
one of the posters says that jw's ask you to do a liitle bible study with them, attend one of their meetings and when you get baptised you have to do exactly what you are instructed or else.
Welcome to the board,
I was raised as a JW from infancy - I've seen people recruited into this cult and cut off from their family and friends, welcomed into the cult and soon after for whatever reason (questions, rules) they were df'd or da themselves, then they had no one. When coming into this cult you are encouraged to get away from worldy friends and family only to be outcast from these same people if you do not follow all the rules or attempt to question anything.
I think the worst is when you are raised in this cult, because you really don't have anyone else to turn to when they "kick you out". Please Please Please!!! look into this, take some time to read some of the posts here in the forum. You may have an eye opening experience.
Good Luck
[the watchtower, july 15, 1961 issue, page 420: .
[the watchtower, july 1, 1963 issue, page 413: .
[the watchtower, july 15, 1974 issue, page 442: .
WOW!!!! So much of your story I can relate to.
I too was forced to be a JW from infancy, made to go in field service, Deaftly afraid of the demons and thought they were in the bathroom or at the top of the stairs around the corner waiting for me, No BOYS allowed (god forbid), could not even talk to them on the phone.....
I enjoyed your thread, because I related to it soooo much, I've said in the past and will say again - you never imagine how many people have the same story, can't wait for part 2!!!
