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No work but volunteer at the hall?

by Champion in

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so my brother who is in construction(home improvement) has no work.

my "elder" dad says he and a few other "brothers" were working on the kingdumb hall.

i said that's good at least they are making a little money.

SnakesInTheTower

I knew a pioneer elder who had several kids...wife didnt work (or did janitorial PT..but had health problems, so very PT)...he did some janitorial and drove for Domino's....

...so far so good.....

..except they were taking money from welfare.,....because they had all these kids, they could. Now, he was quite capable of working hard...had at one time ..... but instead...moved his family from one rural town to another in Illinois.... pioneering where the "need was great".....

,....that I have a problem with. I have no issue with someone collecting government payments....if they deserve them...not because they choose to put themselves,...and worse...their families...into financial danger all because they want to serve Jehovah a Book Publishing Corporation

I almost did it...after MTS...the Society wanted me to live in the middle of nowhere Kansas..... no job...no benefits...nothing.... I declined...but caused myself career problems anyway by taking a job 75 miles each way to assist a congregation...that lasted 4 months...then I gave up MTS assignments and started looking for real jobs again....

The Society took advantage of literally thousands of my hours doing manual labor at quick builds and the local assembly hall....when I should have been going back to school and getting a real job...and investing in my retirement...instead...I have nothing in savings....no retirement...and dont expect social security to be there when I need it...

thank you Watchtower....dumb ass mo' fo's.

Snakes (Rich )

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April KM Question Box

by JWFreak in

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2010 Convention Theme

by garlic81 in

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the theme for the 2010 district convention of jehovah's witnesses is "remain close to jehovah".

this can be verified by looking at the printed edition of the march 1, 2010 watchtower..

SnakesInTheTower

"Remain Close to Jehovah... and you too will See That the Smell of Decay of the Governing Body Lingers." -- 1 Bullsh*t 4:11

SnakesInTheTower (of the "not falling for that crap again" Sheep Class...Rich)

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JW mom has limited contact with me these days

by SnakesInTheTower in

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my mom has been a jw since 1970. my dad, who died in 1994, became a dub in 1971. i have told parts of that story elsewhere on the board.. my mom remarried a couple of years later to a non-jw.

my stepfather and i get along very well, despite his background (cussin', former hell's angel, former navy seal, smoker)...generally quite rough..but underneath a decent guy.. i just called down to my mom's today...about 11am... stepdad answers.... where is my mom?

he says: "out doing her thing..." i say: "oh, you mean door knocking?

SnakesInTheTower

d:

Maybe you should tell your Mom you regret getting baptised because you are shunned and your brothers are not

that is a good idea...I do regret it...and it seems to me one of my parents thought that at age (almost) 17, I was still too young/immature to make the decision...but didnt stop me....

cl:

Maybe when she finally meets your fiance and sees how happy she makes you, she will be happy for you.

mom has talked to toni once on the phone briefly and they have the same warped sense of humor. We are hoping to get together with family easter weekend down in georgia....I hope my mom is good to her...I think she will be...but the dub factor is always an unknown. Toni and hunter and I are staying in a hotel when we go down.... both because hunter wants to play in a pool...and toni and I want to sleep in the same bed without hurting mom's feelings any more than they already will be.

mimi:

And tell Toni life is too short to worry about other people's issues. Even if your mom blames her in some way, you both know the truth. And you had left before you and Toni got together.

i know...I tell her this all the time... the way she grew up and the way her adult life has been up until now... insecurity ...I thought I was insecure.... I think it is why we understand each other so well..... and why we are good for each other...we both know how much we need reassurance and give it to each other generously.

anyone who has seen me and toni together know how much we love each other... we are hoping to get married in May.... I am taking her out to dinner Saturday night....I need to find some flowers...orchids this time...not roses...she loves orchids...(but says dont spend money on flowers....riiiiiighhhht...lol).... dont know if we are going to a movie or to listen to music....play it by ear...

Snakes (Rich )

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How to deal with Boss contradictions.

by Elsewhere in

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1. my boss tells me to take more initiative and solve problems on my own so i don't have to bother him so much.. i take the effort to track down information that will help solve a certain problem.

boss fusses wanting to know why i tracked down the information without notifying him.

i contact someone who will have access to information to solve another problem.boss fusses wanting to know why i contacted that person without his knowledge.

SnakesInTheTower

I had that happen when I worked in billing for a major water utility....

I was a billing specialist..dealing with complex water billing issues (California has some of the nuttiest conservation rate schedules in the country).....and there was a rate change.... causing exception flags to appear on nearly every one of the hundreds of bills generated each day...meaning someone had to manually go in, look at the bill to make sure it was good, then override the flag...

...I knew what the problem was...the rate change caused all of the bills to fall outside of the parameters...the parameters needed changed...no big deal, right? Went to the team lead...she says nothing can be done...just do your job....go through them one by one ....(meanwhile, dozens....then hundreds...of billing adjustment requests from customers are piling up)...I go to her boss....she says it has to be submitted to IT as a job request...and that takes several days to weeks depending on priorities...

...sh*t.... so I get in touch with my contact out in california (they were 2 hours behind us)..... tell him what is going on...he asks me what I need.... he says...just a min...I will email the IT guy..... a few minutes later...I get a Lotus note saying the parameter has been changed...recalculate the batch...

...I go over to my team lead....tell her to recalc the batch...she says no...its not your batch...go back to your own work...... I reach over my coworkers shoulder....grab his computer mouse...click on the recalc button....pause.... bingo...exceptions drop from hundreds to less than a dozen.....coworker pleased...boss pissed.....lol

team lead (boss) is pissed...what did you do? I told her I got the parameters changed... she says when? a few minutes ago.... you cant do that....there are procedures.... yeah...meanwhile I need help with adjustments...not wasting time overriding false exceptions...

my boss's boss' boss was impressed with my initiative.... my boss was pissed because she didnt think of it ..... it was a matter of time before she figured out a way to get me out the door...lol

Ironically.....I could have had her job if I could have worked Thursday nights (I worked M-F afternoons except Thursday...you know why)....

...point is...there are idiots everywhere...

Snakes (Rich )

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JW mom has limited contact with me these days

by SnakesInTheTower in

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my mom has been a jw since 1970. my dad, who died in 1994, became a dub in 1971. i have told parts of that story elsewhere on the board.. my mom remarried a couple of years later to a non-jw.

my stepfather and i get along very well, despite his background (cussin', former hell's angel, former navy seal, smoker)...generally quite rough..but underneath a decent guy.. i just called down to my mom's today...about 11am... stepdad answers.... where is my mom?

he says: "out doing her thing..." i say: "oh, you mean door knocking?

SnakesInTheTower

My mom has been a JW since 1970. My dad, who died in 1994, became a dub in 1971. I have told parts of that story elsewhere on the board.

My mom remarried a couple of years later to a non-JW. My stepfather and I get along very well, despite his background (cussin', former Hell's Angel, former Navy Seal, smoker)...generally quite rough..but underneath a decent guy.

I just called down to my mom's today...about 11am... stepdad answers.... where is my mom? He says: "Out doing her thing..." I say: "Oh, you mean door knocking?" He says: "Yeah." I ask him how much she does that....he tells me 4 or 5 hours a day...4 or 5 days a week. Understand...she is not pioneering in any form whatsoever.... yet, she prefers to spend her retirement time driving around rural Alabama to spending it with her husband? Wasting time and gas...and right now, they don't have the money to waste... unlike when he had a good job and worked lots of OT... he is retired, pension and disability....she gets a small social security payment (because, foolishly, she took it at 62 instead of waiting).... and they have two mortgages to pay because the market tanks in South Florida....to the point my stepdad no longer has any equity in the house.... and they cant sell it.....

so my mom is burning up gas, wear and tear on the car, etc...in field circus.... my step dad resents it...he just says he does whatever he wants.... he knew she was a JW when they met...but I dont think he realized the implications of a JW with lots of free time on their hands combined with nothing else to do and a weird zeal for it....

.... so that is what my JW mom is doing with her time. I called her a week ago...... because she rarely calls me..... and I let her know my fiancee wants to talk to her soon...my fiancee is nervous about meeting my mom because of the whole JW thing...she is afraid my mom is going to blame her for turning her son (me) away from the witnesses.....

...and to be honest, despite my mom saying its not true.... I wonder. And she has yet to call and talk to my fiancee (other than saying hello over the speakerphone when I am talking)..... My mom and step dad have not met my fiancee....

I guess ....with all my rambling... I resent, as does my step dad.... my mom wasting so much time in door knocking and not enough time working on family relationships. She goes and sees my non JW brother (who lives 4 hours away)...and talks to my other non JW brother on the phone more .... but my step dad says she doesnt hold it against them for not being JWs because they were never baptized and I was....

....so she doesnt like me living with a girl without being married....and everything that entails.... she has said it would be an untenable situation if she still lived near me... but living 12 hours away...she can bury her head in the sand.

.....sigh...... I am just venting..... thanks for reading.... my dear fiancee should be home shortly....maybe we have an hour alone before getting the 8YO from school...

Snakes (Rich )

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when is the memorial this year? and will you be going?

by highdose in

i won't be going if i can help it, but id like a heads up about it, just to be forewarned.

SnakesInTheTower

welll.. no...

so its March 30?..what is that ...a Tuesday... nah.. I am sure there is something more interesting on tv...

havent been in a kingdumb hell since Sept 07...and wont go again...

Snakes (Rich )

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Elders who step down for little or no reason?

by Truthexplorer in

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within the past decade, two elders stepped down in my old congregation.

actually one was taken off for commiting adultery and therefore reproved, but the other one simply stepped down for no apparent reason.

also, in another congregation i used to attend for a short time, i was shocked to hear of another elder stepping down, again for no apparent reason.. i am wondering if there has been an increase in the number of elders stepping down for no obvious reason and to see if this is a worrying trend causing alarm for the society.. i am thinking the past 10 years, particularly with the internet being available to so many people around the world today; but have you experienced many elders stepping down in your congregation or past congregation?

SnakesInTheTower

I started to step down...but instead I made the local yokels remove me in front of the CO a couple of months later. I had enough on them saps that I could have gotten one or more of them removed...

....but then I would have been deeper in the steaming pile of crap..... I was ready to go.... they removed me... I changed congos.....welcomed with open arms...until they found out this MTS grad was no longer an elder and not eligible for reapppointment for 3 years (not judicial)...since I didnt step down as I was asked.... 9 months later...no more Kingdumb Hell...

..now I am free...

but elders always step down for a reason.... even if not apparent..

I knew 3 that had stepped down before me..... at least one no longer attends... my old roomate and former (his choice) best friend was the PO...a few months ago his teen son was DF...... now he is not an elder either..dont know what he is doing.. he no longer contacts me....kinda miss him.

Snakes (Rich )

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My mom got stumbled by today's Watchtower

by JerkhovahsWitless in

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the photo on page 26. she noticed it and was wondering before i even brought it to her attention.. why is it ok for the jw posing as the "worldly person" to wear a cross necklace?

aren't jws suppose to destroy their crosses prior to becoming a jw no matter the monetary or sentimental value?

why can the watchtower keep cross necklaces on hand as props?

SnakesInTheTower

i wish my mom would see that kind of thing but i think she just glosses over such things now....just highlight and repeat...

as a side note....

the society seems more and more to not use their own photo and art departments and now use royalty free images or low cost images for a one time payment. the society used to use their art department for maps and such.... now look at the side of maps in the publications...it often says "© Digital Wisdom" (Mountain High Maps)...

see the link: http://www.digiwis.com/ ...note this from the site:

Reproduction rights granted with your purchase of MOUNTAIN HIGH MAPS ® allow almost unlimited commercial use. MOUNTAIN HIGH MAPS ® includes all the FRONTIERS Illustrator / FreeHand vector maps described below. View map catalog - Macintosh / Windows ITEM 1004 $495 on DVD

(bold underline mine) So...you see...why have an art department...when you can buy the stuff off the shelf... the society is lazy cost cutting

do you remember the dopy "kids" video with the cheesy animation?

Snakes (Rich )

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She has autism 5 year old child. :(

by asilentone in

i am going to date this gorgeous chick sometime soon.

she wants long term relationship, but she has a 5 year old son that has autism, should i be concerned?

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SnakesInTheTower

My 9 year old nephew has autism....he is smart from what I see...but his language skills are very poor and he has some of the other issues that come with autism. I dont get to be around him much, so I dont see the details.

Regarding this gal..... anytime you date a gal with a kid, you get what ever "issues" that she and the child have, disabled or not. The soul-searching question for you, or anyone (including myself, because my fiancee has an 8 year old son who is on the other end... highly intelligent but highly insecure) that is dating someone with a child....

Are you secure enough with yourself to take on this challenge? This lady is probably thrilled to have someone ask her out and be interested in her long-term since she has a child with a disability....taking on someone else's child under normal circumstances.....add to that an autistic child and it is a lot to ask of anyone, let alone someone who is not the child's biological father. But...and I am sure you know this.... you have to be genuinely interested in the little one too. Take your cues from the mother, let her take the lead (don't get between mama and her cub). Learn as much as you can about autism, specifically the type the boy has. If you cant ask the questions, this relationship is doomed before it starts....if she is offended by the questions, ditto.

On the other hand...if you can have honest conversations about this and get and give honest answers, then you may be genuinely surprised...you may have found a gem that others have overlooked because of the kid.

I say give it a chance...but be careful with the little one at first.... autistic kids tend to be shy, but latch on once they get used to you.... any kind of major change in their lives and routines can be absolutely devastating....be careful but enjoy.

Snakes (Rich )