the circuit overseer this week on tuesday gave a talk on loyalty to jehovah.
i listed 5 points.
i only remember 3.. one was the typical association with disfellowshipped relatives, the next was loyalty to friends over jehovah by not reporting wrongdoing to elders.
I knew many elders and a couple of COs that were avid golfers.
I also heard quite a few stories when I was attending MTS and from fellow elders who sat on JCs for couples that were wife swapping, orgies, and swingers. Instant DF. lol
None of this surprises me.
Snakes
i used to post on this site years ago.
then, my login quit working.
haven't been here in a long time.
Hi JD.
I probably wouldn't think much about JW stuff either, except my 74 year old mom is still a dub. I post much less than when I first started.
Snakes (Rich)
if you have a look at the december broadcast on jw tv they tell you that they wont be showing you a normal format for december but the 143rd event of gilead because the watchtower does not have the resources other wise to translate it many different lanuages.. with all the cuts the watchtower have made and are going to make you would have thought that they would have lots of resources.
I have a better idea.
D O N 'T W A T C H A N Y O F I T
Snakes
i was baptized 30 years ago and have been in the faith for over 35 years.. our organization isn't perfect.
but i'm sick to death of seeing stereotypes about us.
we are not mindless automatons.
You are either a fuc#ing troll, or worse, a fuc$ing hypocrite.
If you are a JW in so-called "good standing" in your congregation, and yet do things that, out here in the real world are normal, but make you "bad association" as a JW, then you are a hypocrite.
Smoking (uncleanness), voting (not neutral), on a known apostate website (bad association), getting a Masters Degree (not listening to the counsel about education from your precious Governing Body, some of those cocky assholes I have personally met....Left, Herd. )
Either way, you are wasting our time and yours. Give that Uncle Tom Sam Herd and Rubber Face Steve Lett my love....not.
Snakes (Rich)
hi all.. it's being a while that i don't share in the forum.
after moving to another country and finding a job, i asked my congregation in my country to send my publishing card here.
once i did it, i stopped attending meetings.
Skepsis, I went back and looked at all of your posts. I forgot I commented on your thread once. What an interesting journey.
Snakes(Rich)
hi all.. it's being a while that i don't share in the forum.
after moving to another country and finding a job, i asked my congregation in my country to send my publishing card here.
once i did it, i stopped attending meetings.
Skepsis....
That is excellent! Even better that you left as an MS. Leave them scratching their collective heads.Snakes (Rich)
that;s what my wife (and all jw's) gets to hear about us at the kingdom hall today, (hmmmm, i wonder if she'll raise her hand to answer this one) ... .
watchtower study ... today, apostates and others who create divisions in the congregation use “smooth talk and flattering speech.” (romans 16:17, 18) they may pretend to care about others, but in reality, they are selfish.. (the watchtower - study edition (simplified version) 10/17 page 4 paragraph 7).
I guess I am selfish.
Fu#k em.
Snakes
we want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
My 74 year old mom has been a JW since 1970. They don't much use carts in small town Alabama. She just started regular pioneering. I wish she wouldn't. I encourage her to Pioneer, as she always wanted, UNLESS it stops being enjoyable or she gets tired.
I understand some in the exJW community being frustrated. But screaming at people at the carts? If it was my mom manning a cart, and I watched you scream at her, I WOULD PUNCH YOU IN THE MOUTH.
What good does it do to scream at people? I yell at my 16 year old and I may as well be screaming in my head.. LOL.
Seriously, we just feed their persecution mindset and PROVE that "apostates" are crazy, and that is what happens when "you leave Jehovah (tm)
Think about it.
Snakes (Rich)
makes me crazy:.
there: go over there!.
their: they own it; belonging to etc.. for the love of pete - use them correctly!.
I had to go back and edit a post earlier today because, when typing on a phone, the software tries to autocorrect. I had their instead of there. I hate when the time is up and I see the problem later and cannot fix it.
***Shrugs*** If that is my worst problem today, damn, it is a good day.
Snakes
i dont know if it's due to the last convention, the recent broadcasts, the internet or just plain fatigue - but since the convention i've had a few people contact me via facebook messenger asking how i am then cutting to the chase asking me what it's like "on the outside" or "how did you adjust after leaving?
" and asking me how they can leave the wt but keep their families.. my reply is always the same, i show real genuine interest and concern and listen to their situation.
then i suggest a fade, how to fade, to ignore or reject elders visits, to not talk about their doubts to active jws under any circumstances and finally point them to this site.
He said what mattered to him was his dedication to Jehovah as if I had broken my contract by leaving. I agree with you, they've broken the contract by completely changing the wording of it.
WT loophole on the "they changed the contract" is that every time you filled out a form for some "special privilege," even something as innocculous as auxiliary pioneering, you were agreeing with supporting the GB. It was on the bottom of every application. If you became an MS or elder, you were agreeing with the updated contract (new light). Saying all that, their rules. When we don't play by their rules, they can do what they want. And we can do what we want, but with known consequences of our choosing freedom. We lose so- called friends. No real loss if we are logical. Losing JW blood relatves, that is a loss, but we are better off ultimately. Logically we know this. Emotionally it sucks
Snakes (Rich)
