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  Faders are indeed a large army...

  by undercover in

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  ...and i think it's starting to show.. i started a thread the other day about being hounded after several years of having successfully(?

  ) faded.

  i've been taken aback a bit the recent developments but i'm making a new strategy...one that depends more on sticking to my guns and laying the cards on the table.

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  I havent been a secretary since december 06 when i was deleted.

  cards are kept forever....or until you die and the secretary bothers to clear them out.... i went through the old archive box and threw out ...and shredded...over 100 cards of probably 40 or 50 different people.... once a card goes inactive (6 months)...it usually gets moved into a different part of the file box or flagged... ...easier for the co to find.....then after about a year or two (the publisher cards are 2 sided.. ...covers 2 service years).... depending on when the publisher goes inactive.... whether or not a new card is filled out.... if not...then the old card goes into the archive.... if the 2nd service year was nearly complete.....or if the publisher is still attending...then likely a new card is started...and another 2 years in the current file box.

  that is the way i did it...and the way most did it from what i could tell.... I was a bit picky...so my files were better organized... I didnt keep old cards cluttering up my current box...

  I am sure that I no longer appear in any congregations radar.

  Snakes (Rich )
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 02-21-10 WT Study (SALVATION)

  by blondie in

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  http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.

  http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php.

  http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.

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  blondie...sorry to hear your health is not the best.... doctors can be frustrating at best...maybe why it is said that doctors "practice" medicine...and we are the guinea pigs.... ...... hope all turns out well.... or at least "tolerable" as one old man I used to know would say...

  ....as to the article.... the WTBTS continues in its circular reasoning and hiding behind partial out of context quotations of sources that, if the rank and file knew where it came from... would be upset... presuming that many of the R&F actually read the study articles instead of just read and highlight....

  ...my mom believes that nonsense line "where else would I go?" when talking to me about why I left "The Truth®." It is, indeed, a thought stopping question for dubs....le sigh

  I could only read about half of your comments....your comments were excellent and well thought out....but I have gotten to the point that I really dont care about the bile issuing forth out of the sewers at Patterson. My JW mom refuses to discuss JW/religion/spirituality with me anymore...fine with me...but it limits her ability to have a conversation....

  take care of yourself blondie....

  Snakes (Rich )
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  New BOE letter on inactive ones

  by JWFreak in

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  again..please do not ask for a pdf scan as the only copies i have are the interbranch electronic copies from the us branch to our local branch.. .

  november 3, 2009 .

  to all bodies of elders .

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  cl:

  I am not so sure that the elders you speak of are not vindictive enough to cause problems, if they choose to.

  sh*t doesn't stink if they don't stir it.... they leave me alone, I leave them alone. lol

  You did well by putting your card in a different location from where you live.

  I can hardly believe they left you alone

  the fade was purposefully planned. I ran across several elders in my town over the last week....apparently some think I am already married.. or that is what they have been told to think.... no one wants to touch me with a 10 foot pole, and I am glad....

  None of it really matters to me except I want to keep a good relationship with my kids. Otherwise, it is all a distant memory.

  exactly.... I dont even know the date of the Reject Jesus WT Infomercial this year...or the assemblies...or the convention...and dont want to know... I want a good relationship with my JW mom.... it is strained right now.... hope to rectify that in April.... glad you still have that with your kids...

  Snakes (Rich )
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  Finished Ex-Jehovah's Witness Survey (Please fill out for help with project)...

  by Tuesday in

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  hey everyone!.

  ) did you feel the religion was a cult before leaving?:.

  ) do you feel the religion is a cult now after leaving?:.

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  Ex-Jehovah’s Witness Survey

  A.) Name: Rich (SnakesInTheTower)

  B.) Gender

  Male

  C.) Age:

  41-45

  1.) How were you introduced to Jehovah's Witnesses:

  Parents converted when you were young and taught you

  2.) How did you leave the religion:

  Faded Away (slowly missed more and more meetings until you stopped going completely)

  3.) What Age did you leave?

  41-45

  4.) Were you Baptized

  Yes

  5.) What General reason did you leave the religion:

  Other (Explain: Didn't believe the teachings combined with the hypocrisy of the leadership)

  6.) How did you feel about the doctrine before leaving:

  Believed there we more things wrong than right

  7.) Did your feelings about the doctrine effect the way you left?

  Yes

  8.) If you were disfellowshipped for sin, did your feelings on the doctrine effect you sinning in the first place?

  9.) Did you feel the religion was a cult before leaving?:

  I saw a few similarities between the religion and a cult

  10.) Did you research the religion's teachings after leaving?

  Yes

  11.) What are your feelings on the doctrine of the religion since leaving?

  They are totally wrong

  12.) How do you feel about the organization since leaving?:

  They are Totally wrong

  They are evil

  13.) How do you feel about the people since leaving?:

  They are misguided people and I feel sorry for them

  14.) Do you feel the religion is a cult now after leaving?:

  Yes they are definitely a cult

  15.) What is your opinion on the intelligence of those still in the Organization? :

  They're intelligent but purposely deny facts for their religion

  16.) Are you happier now that you’re gone?

  I think every day about how happy I am to have left

  17.) Do you feel that other than the fact you left the Jehovah’s Witnesses that they would agree with how you live your life?

  They would not agree with anything I do now

  18.) If a Jehovah’s Witness approaches you to discuss their religion you’re more than likely do the following:

  Tell them I was raised a Jehovah’s Witness and feel they’re wrong

  19.) Would you consider returning?

  If I ever see another Kingdom Hall it would be too soon

  20.) How do you feel about discussing your time as a Jehovah's Witness?:

  I’ll only talk about it with certain people who understand the circumstances

  Snakes (Rich )

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  V And Watchtower Comments

  by KingDavidwasframed in

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  has any one heard what happened or if there will be more?.

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  I asked about this a month ago:

  Whatever happened to the poster named V?

  hope you are right Besty....

  Snakes (Rich )
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  Whatever happened to the poster named V?

  by SnakesInTheTower in

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  i get a 403 message for the watchtower comments web site... the youtube channel hasnt been visited by v in 8 months and it was april when v was here last?.

  anyone know what ever became of v?

  thanks for the update....pm me if you would rather not post on the public board.... snakes (rich .

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  I hope this is true:

  V and Watchtower Comments

  besty:

  He is OK and will re-emerge bigger and bolder than before.

  Snakes (Rich )
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  New BOE letter on inactive ones

  by JWFreak in

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  again..please do not ask for a pdf scan as the only copies i have are the interbranch electronic copies from the us branch to our local branch.. .

  november 3, 2009 .

  to all bodies of elders .

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  choosing life:

  I guess it is time to screen calls and ignore unwelcome visits.

  nah...{Death Valley} Congo elders are too lazy... you will be "lucky" to get an invite to the Memorial Disrespect Jesus Celebration WT Infomercial.....

  I left {Death Valley} congo in Dec 06 for another circuit and state entirely.... once the elders in the new congo got the letter stating I was not eligible to be reappointed an elder (or even MS) because of being removed (and disqualified for 3 years)...the new congo elders suddenly lost interest in my personal well being. My last visit to the 9th Circle of Hell (aka Kingdom Hell) was in Sept 07..I have not heard from them or {DV} congo since.

  I did receive a visit from 2 elders (including the COBOE) in the town I live in awhile back... back on November 1, 2009...so that was before the date of that letter....but maybe the CO gave them a heads up on it? Haven't heard from them either...

  ..so much for their so-called "Christian" love....

  Snakes (Rich )
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  Life On Hold: The CO Visit Week

  by sacolton in

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  did anyone have to cancel a vacation trip because it was on co visit week?

  i still don't get why the co visit was as if god himself was in town.

  is it kinda like if the pope were to visit with catholics?.

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  I knew an elder/regular SuperPiosneer (also service overseer) that had a cruise or some other thing planned months in advance....CO visit announced.... super idiot cancelled his vacation...I think it cost him and his wife several hundred dollars in deposit money.

  stupid is as stupid does....

  ..I just heard recently that Bro. SuperPiosneer quit regular pioneering after 2 decades.... what...your telephone biz is more important than the field service?...

  ...or is it that your conscience finally got to you for looking at porn all those years and getting let off the hook?...oh well...you are still an elder...

  I remember hating CO week.... all that ass kissing... The last CO (before I left)...I would take him and his wife out to lunch at Applebees....never a thank you note one.

  Snakes (Rich )
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  An email from my dad

  by TheSilence in

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  i received this email from my dad today.

  i have not clicked on the link or responded, nor do i intend to.

  i accept that i am not going to change his mind, and i know he is not going to change mine, so i choose not to participate in debate with him in an effort to retain what little relationship i have with him.

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  jackie...

  we both have parents that are deeply ingrained in the Borg....engaging them in discussion is futile.....

  ...good for you for not bothering with responding.... I quit responding to my mom's forwarded emails sometime ago....

  ...I did send her the chart of the 6 variations of the generation issue per WT sources...she has not responded...no surprise...but her phone calls have taken a sharp decrease in frequency and duration since then....

  Snakes (Rich )

  (toni and mr h say hello)
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  No work but volunteer at the hall?

  by Champion in

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  so my brother who is in construction(home improvement) has no work.

  my "elder" dad says he and a few other "brothers" were working on the kingdumb hall.

  i said that's good at least they are making a little money.

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  I knew a pioneer elder who had several kids...wife didnt work (or did janitorial PT..but had health problems, so very PT)...he did some janitorial and drove for Domino's....

  ...so far so good.....

  ..except they were taking money from welfare.,....because they had all these kids, they could. Now, he was quite capable of working hard...had at one time ..... but instead...moved his family from one rural town to another in Illinois.... pioneering where the "need was great".....

  ,....that I have a problem with. I have no issue with someone collecting government payments....if they deserve them...not because they choose to put themselves,...and worse...their families...into financial danger all because they want to serve Jehovah a Book Publishing Corporation

  I almost did it...after MTS...the Society wanted me to live in the middle of nowhere Kansas..... no job...no benefits...nothing.... I declined...but caused myself career problems anyway by taking a job 75 miles each way to assist a congregation...that lasted 4 months...then I gave up MTS assignments and started looking for real jobs again....

  The Society took advantage of literally thousands of my hours doing manual labor at quick builds and the local assembly hall....when I should have been going back to school and getting a real job...and investing in my retirement...instead...I have nothing in savings....no retirement...and dont expect social security to be there when I need it...

  thank you Watchtower....dumb ass mo' fo's.

  Snakes (Rich )