Eu knows what apostasy means. From apostasia. wts did not invent word. but what makes you think the word does not apply to those who defect from the Christian faith? If the jws are the true christian religion, then to defect from that faith is to apostatize from christianity. the term then fits.
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Why Are People Here So Disrespectful At Times?
by Eutapro ineu has noticed that a number of persons making up this forum are guilty of showing disrespect to jehovah's witnesses.
some refer to jws as 'hovahs and others talk about kingdumb hells, all the time professing to follow christ.. some may justify their rude behavior by saying that jws themselves can be rude.
even if the charge is true, and eu is not really convinced that it is, why cannot ex-jws rise above the fray?
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Why Are People Here So Disrespectful At Times?
by Eutapro ineu has noticed that a number of persons making up this forum are guilty of showing disrespect to jehovah's witnesses.
some refer to jws as 'hovahs and others talk about kingdumb hells, all the time professing to follow christ.. some may justify their rude behavior by saying that jws themselves can be rude.
even if the charge is true, and eu is not really convinced that it is, why cannot ex-jws rise above the fray?
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Eu can understand you people being upset. But can't you just summon the internal resources to rise above it? Why not go see Dr larc or a cognitive psych to help you out? Watch Oprah and consult Dr Phil.
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Why Are People Here So Disrespectful At Times?
by Eutapro ineu has noticed that a number of persons making up this forum are guilty of showing disrespect to jehovah's witnesses.
some refer to jws as 'hovahs and others talk about kingdumb hells, all the time professing to follow christ.. some may justify their rude behavior by saying that jws themselves can be rude.
even if the charge is true, and eu is not really convinced that it is, why cannot ex-jws rise above the fray?
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$$$If mutual respect is something we all should strive for, wouldn't it help not to call people "apostates?" If someone from my church decided I didn't measure up, dissagreed or whatever and felt justified in calling me an "apostate" who would be the immature and weak one?$$$
The term apostate is not meant to be offensive. Jws genuinely think that those who deviate from the faith are apostates. But you do not see eu coming to this place calling peopel names.
$$$I don't think you are for real.$$$
Then why you addressing Eu?
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Why Are People Here So Disrespectful At Times?
by Eutapro ineu has noticed that a number of persons making up this forum are guilty of showing disrespect to jehovah's witnesses.
some refer to jws as 'hovahs and others talk about kingdumb hells, all the time professing to follow christ.. some may justify their rude behavior by saying that jws themselves can be rude.
even if the charge is true, and eu is not really convinced that it is, why cannot ex-jws rise above the fray?
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[Never been a JW, so maybe you will not respect my opinion but from my outsider-looking-in perspective...respect, is earned. People generally GET what they GIVE.]
Eu does not believe that one only has to respect those who earn respect. Respect emanates from within. It is a virtue, something that good people just show to other rational substances. The whole revenge mentality is immature, fleshly, and weak. Be strong and rise above the fray.
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Why Are People Here So Disrespectful At Times?
by Eutapro ineu has noticed that a number of persons making up this forum are guilty of showing disrespect to jehovah's witnesses.
some refer to jws as 'hovahs and others talk about kingdumb hells, all the time professing to follow christ.. some may justify their rude behavior by saying that jws themselves can be rude.
even if the charge is true, and eu is not really convinced that it is, why cannot ex-jws rise above the fray?
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Eutapro
Eu has noticed that a number of persons making up this forum are guilty of showing disrespect to Jehovah's Witnesses. Some refer to jws as 'hovahs and others talk about kingdumb hells, all the time professing to follow Christ.
Some may justify their rude behavior by saying that jws themselves can be rude. Even if the charge is true, and Eu is not really convinced that it is, why cannot ex-jws rise above the fray? Why not show that they are better than those old rude jws and show some common respect? Eu is just thinking aloud. He is not trying to be critical.
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One Question JWs Should Ask Themselves
by Eutapro indo i want to be like the ex-jws on this board?
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Do I want to be like the ex-jws on this board?
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Objectivity and This Site
by Eutapro ini must say that as a neutral scientific observer of this site--it seems that things are kind of one-sided here.
i thought this was a board with both devout jws and ex-jws on it.
on further reflection it appears that this medium of communication should probably be called ex-jw.com.
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Mr larc and hy
Thanks for being kind and informative. I must presently curtail my involvement with the internet as I rework my theoretical model based on what larc has said.
This does not mean that Eu is permanently leaving. He will be back in a couple of months to let you know the results of his work.
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Social Contagion Theory
by Eutapro into dr larc and others.
do you think that social contagion theory has any merit?
do you believe that we see evidence of this phenomenon on this board?
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To Dr larc and others
Do you think that social contagion theory has any merit? Do you believe that we see evidence of this phenomenon on this board? Methinks that whenever a jw or jw sympathizer or person like me, who does not hold a popular opinion on matters discussed on this board, comes here--he or she is immediately shouted down by the crowd.
So Eu wonders if the animal is controlling the crowd here. What do you all think?
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Brainwashing is not what it used to be.
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Objectivity and This Site
by Eutapro ini must say that as a neutral scientific observer of this site--it seems that things are kind of one-sided here.
i thought this was a board with both devout jws and ex-jws on it.
on further reflection it appears that this medium of communication should probably be called ex-jw.com.
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Dr larc
Thanks for your learned dicta. This information will greatly assist my research efforts.
[Let me address your last question first, re: critical psychology. I have never heard of a special branch with that name. All research psychologists are very critical, so it seems to me that the term should cut across all branches of the field. If you have a reference to the term as having special meaning then please provide it.]
I learned about critical psychology at these sites
http://www.uws.edu.au/criticalpsychology/
Here is a brief description of critical psychology:
"Critical psychology researchers recognise the interaction, dynamism and subjectivity in these areas for study and therefore largely reject positivistic paradigms which assume that the world is predictable and objective. Instead they use a range of qualitative approaches which seek to discover meanings, processes, relationships and the reciprocal effects between individuals and larger social processes."
There are many more sites detailing this approach to psychology.
[Regarding classical conditioning and religion, let me make some comments. Classical conditioning has to do with automatic, viseral responses that get paired with certain events, and then get associated with these events automaticaly. Some religions create viseral responses through things live revivals and a call to the alter to get saved. These situations can cause powerful emotional reactions. By contrast, the enculturation into the Witnesses, does not use these emotion laden methods. Their book studies and meetings are almost totally devoid of emotion. Rather, they draw on behavior, making the motions of study, going out in meetings, and out in field service. Their message to the members continually urges them to engage in certain behaviors. That is why I say, that operant conditioning is a better paradigm to explain the Witnesses, than is classical conditioning.]
You bring out some valid points. Thanks for your time, sir.