the more i read on this site, the more i see that all religions think their version of what is right and wrong is what matters.
some punish you now for disobedience to the church's rules and others supposedly give you your reward in the hereafter.. some live their lives with more strictness.
others are more liberal.. look at the jewish faith.
The world's religions/belief systems (atheism included) span the whole spectrum from extremists to those who are tolerant of other beliefs.
The Dubs are just your basic narrow-minded, apocalyptic Fundies with a twist.
The scary thing about any brand of religion is the potential to have superstitious belief in the supernatural override reason and logic.
For what it's worth....
Cheers,
Alex
have we had any new light on who the king of the north is at the present time because i need a reminder .i haven't read anything about him since the 1960s.and the last time i tried explaining it to a little old lady at the door the russian missiles were on the their way to cuba and the late night news reader, that night ,said " goodnight everyone and i hope you all have a peaceful and restfull night," which was very unusual because radio announcers did not comment after the news in those days.. thunder and lightning, frightning very very frightning, bealzeebub moma mia moma mia!.
It's all so bogus...anything can be read into Bible prophecies.
The last thing I heard before I left in 1997 was that they didn't know which country would take up the manltle.
Cheers,
Alex
http://www.newswithviews.com/devvy/kidd359.htm.
despite the propaganda coming out of washington, dc., millions of americans are in deep financial trouble.
last week the media cranked up the mantra that wall street may be getting more optimistic.
The predictions about $200/bbl oil within 2 years could just be attempts at manipulating the news and the markets.
On the other hand, if that actually happens, the Great Depression will look like a bountiful Sunday picnic.
Alex
the united nations warned yesterday that it no longer has enough money to keep global malnutrition at bay..... http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/feb/26/food.unitednations.
this is a changed world.
we are living in very historic times.
LOL indeed, TOTH....
Typical Fundie fodder for scaring the dimwitted, the superstitious, and the weak minded.
Cheers,
Alex
for those of us who got burned by the borg's bogus bible chronology.... once a few more years go by (at least by 2020 or 2030), the borg will not be able to fit their supposed divinely arranged role into some kind of bible chronology unless they completely overhaul their explanations of the prophecies.
that leaves them in a catch-22.
if they got it wrong, what's to make them any more believable in the future?.
For those of us who got burned by the BORG's bogus Bible chronology...
Once a few more years go by (at least by 2020 or 2030), the BORG will not be able to fit their supposed divinely arranged role into some kind of Bible chronology unless they completely overhaul their explanations of the prophecies. That leaves them in a Catch-22. If they got it wrong, what's to make them any more believable in the future?
The charasmatic leadership of the past (Knorr, Franz, etc.), able to dupe the multitudes of Dubs, has not been replaced and the BORG will probably just fizzle out if there is not some kind of dynamic leadership. A recent news report stated that the Dubs have the lowest retention rate of any U.S. religious organization.
Cheers,
Alex
yes i have dozed off many times when i used to attend.
most of the time kept the shades on as we used to have outside assemblies.
the thing was not to slide off the chair, drop your head forward or snore.. i've seen some brothers/sister hitting a serious lean to the left or right as they slept and then they'd jerk awake, only to lean again.. some people had sneaky methods.
Ah, the old head jerk routine.
Oh my god, assemblies were better than any drug going for inducing sleep.
And, come to think of it, since I've been out I don't think I've ever attended anything as boring.
Cheers,
Alex
the united nations warned yesterday that it no longer has enough money to keep global malnutrition at bay..... http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/feb/26/food.unitednations.
this is a changed world.
we are living in very historic times.
NGB,
The Bush Administration is doing it's best to relieve the problem in Iraq.
They hope to soon begin to thin out the Irani population as well.
Couldn't agree more!!!
Dan,
the tired statistic of us having 5% of the world's pop. and using more than our "share" of resources
The truth is that we are far from self-sufficient in the U.S. If we didn't have imported energy the lifestyles we are accusmtomed to would come to a screeching halt.
Additionally, the world has become a very small place and problems on the other side of the planet are going to eventually have repercussions here. I did not mean to start arguments on this thread, I merely wanted to point out that we are living through a time that will someday be viewed as a threshold time period in which world conditions changed dramatically.
Changling,
money spent on the current war alone could probably house, feed and educate most of the third world.
Absolutely...but then again, just below the skin, humans are animals and we often behave like animals.
Cheers to all,
Alex
the united nations warned yesterday that it no longer has enough money to keep global malnutrition at bay..... http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/feb/26/food.unitednations.
this is a changed world.
we are living in very historic times.
We will probably pull through...but at what cost??? There are so many major threats to world stability coming down the pike all at once that our global society is probably going to be reeling from one hit after another for a long time to come.
What makes this generation so different from any other that has ever existed is the size of the earth's population. We are in totally uncharted waters and even the best and brightest thinkers can, at best, speculate about how the future will unfold with the population at the size it is.
Unfortunately, rather than confront the problems, the Fundies, including the Dubs, will start with their Apocalyptic babble rather than dealing with the real problems at hand.
Alex
the united nations warned yesterday that it no longer has enough money to keep global malnutrition at bay..... http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/feb/26/food.unitednations.
this is a changed world.
we are living in very historic times.
SL,
Thanks for the comments. I agree with you that there are no good solutions to this problem.The core issue for the world is sustainability. Unfortunately, humans have not developed the collective forethought to practice restraint.
The days of cheap abundant petroleum, food, and water are behind us. The events that lie ahead, over the coming years, are going to momentous by anyone's standards.
Alex
the united nations warned yesterday that it no longer has enough money to keep global malnutrition at bay..... http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/feb/26/food.unitednations.
this is a changed world.
we are living in very historic times.
Okay, Sacrificial Loon,
Let's talk about artificially propping up an unsustainable situation.
Here we are in the U.S., with 4 to 5 % of the earth's population and we use something like 60+ % of global energy resources. If aliens stopped by to take a look, we are not very good global neighbors, here in the U.S. Furthermore, food, energy, and water are inextricably linked and we are in for one helluva rough ride in the days ahead.
I am not trying to exonerate the responsibility that India and China, or the rest of the world, have to bear on this issue, but the bottom line is that we are facing a changed world (forever changed).
Alex
