a geographic cure is when someone moves away to escape their past in some way.
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the optimal type of geographical cure is after the necessary internal changes and progress in healing have been made--essentially to escape the things/people in your surroundings that trigger negative emotions or behaviors in you.. the unhealthy type of geographical cure is running away in an effort to avoid doing the necessary healing work and make changes in oneself.. interested in your thoughts as it applies to healing from jwism.
It's a wonderful thing that we have this option.
Can you imagine living in Salem, Massachusetts with no where to go?
I stayed for a couple of years in the area where I lived after I bailed on the BORG. Eventually, it was time for some changes. So, I made some very dramatic changes (geographic and others) all at once. Moved 1200 miles and went back to school on a mission to change my life. It worked and I've never been happier.
some of you guys may remember that last fall i was talking about doing a cross-country bicycle trip.. well, that idea had to be scrapped, at least for a while.. two days before last thanksgiving, i broke my humerus.
and, of course, since i am right handed it was my right arm.
the doc said that it would be long, tedious recovery-- 6 to 8 months.
Interesting!!!
We have a lot more in common than either of us probably thought. I am finishing the last assignment (a 30 page paper) for a law degree. In fact, I should have finished this last fall, but the humerus problem has put a crimp on everything...although that is now improving along with my attitude.
i have been told by more then one person of my propensity to use the phrase "...it's all about them.
" when it comes to the governing body.
them and their authority that is.
Jeff,
Very interesting observations.
The parallels with Star Trek are uncanny.
Do you remember the Star Trek episode (or it might have been a short series of episodes) in which Picard gave one of the Borg a name? Once Picard gave "Hugh" a name it allowed his thinking to be rewired so that he could think of himself as something other than part of the collective.
A personal NAME is what unraveled the grip of the Borg.
Just a thought. If you haven't seen the episode, it could be worthwhile to watch. In fact, if I get a chance I may dig it up and watch it.
Thanks again for all of your thought-provoking posts.
Alex
some of you guys may remember that last fall i was talking about doing a cross-country bicycle trip.. well, that idea had to be scrapped, at least for a while.. two days before last thanksgiving, i broke my humerus.
and, of course, since i am right handed it was my right arm.
the doc said that it would be long, tedious recovery-- 6 to 8 months.
Wow. I would say 50% versus amputation is great outcome any way you cut it. No pun intended.
Glad to hear that you have very little residual inconvenience with it.
Now, I feel a little bad for complaining.
some of you guys may remember that last fall i was talking about doing a cross-country bicycle trip.. well, that idea had to be scrapped, at least for a while.. two days before last thanksgiving, i broke my humerus.
and, of course, since i am right handed it was my right arm.
the doc said that it would be long, tedious recovery-- 6 to 8 months.
Thanks, David.
The doc is optimistic that I will regain 90 to 100% of the range of motion.
Are you still regaining range of motion or is 50% all you are going to get?
Which aspects of the rehab were the most beneficial?
some of you guys may remember that last fall i was talking about doing a cross-country bicycle trip.. well, that idea had to be scrapped, at least for a while.. two days before last thanksgiving, i broke my humerus.
and, of course, since i am right handed it was my right arm.
the doc said that it would be long, tedious recovery-- 6 to 8 months.
Some of you guys may remember that last fall I was talking about doing a cross-country bicycle trip.
Well, that idea had to be scrapped, at least for a while.
Two days before last Thanksgiving, I broke my humerus. And, of course, since I am right handed it was my right arm. The doc said that it would be long, tedious recovery-- 6 to 8 months. I am 3 + months out now and it has been an excrutiatingly slow and painful recovery. The rehab exercises to regain range of motion are horrible but they have to be done.
This whole experience has given me a whole new outlook on what old people must go through when they suffer various kinds of incapacity.
Every day I can tell that I am improving, but wow it is slow.
and in a kinda funny way........this friend of mine.......who is very close friend of my df'd son and is much younger than me.....he has been dfd for ten years and shunned by his family and really reall misses them......and has been in a longterm gay relationship and i always felt bad for him because there is almost no way to come back in...then fade...if you are in a gay relationship.......so anyway he has heard me trashtalk wt a ton...and seemed to have zero problem with that and griped about his wt issues...... so i call him the other day and immediately respond with some comment about the damm cult.......we he says," wow oompa you prob don't know but i am going to all the meetings again!!
so i am just snap....."wow, that is amazing...i had no idea....are you just going back for family...and then try to fade?
" which is what i just knew had to be the case....and i even mentioned how that would be hard to do with his partner all it would be discovered.......get this....."oompa, i am doing this for me and not my family......they don't even know i am going so don't say anything"........so i am in shock and the more we talk the happier he sounds about da troof....and i mean he is like filled with the holy ghost......so i mentioned how many things we have talked about that they teach that we both dissagree about.......and he says he know they prob have some things wrong but all religions do.
Oompa,
Wow...the poop really hit the fan...huh, buddy. Sometimes the timing on things in life can't possibly be worse, but when that happens you have to recognize it and deal with it.
Sounds like it is time to go. Living life looking over your shoulder and with constant apprehension about when the next shoe will drop is no way to live. Once you bite the bullet and put the B.S. of Dubdom behind you life will begin to improve in ways you can't even imagine.
It's rough at first, but it does get better and better the longer you're out.
Hang in there buddy.
You've got lots of friends here.
All the best,
Alex
And P.S.--I have to respectfully disagree with O.M. Ghost--the Catholic Church isn't nearly as intrusive in its members personal lives as the BORG is.
i just heard this week that the wilmington, vt congregation is being dissolved.
it is here in southern vermont, and i can remember when it was formed, probably about 30 years ago.. the congregation was always troubled, it seems, and there were so many personality conflicts in it that people who lived next to the kingdom hall would travel to the brattleboro, vt congregation to attend meetings!
a good percentage of witnesses that lived in that territory refused to go there and attended other congregations.. it seems that attendance has dwindled down to 20 or so, and so it is being disbanded.
Alrightee then.... one down....how many to go?
leaving wt: if 1914 goes, they cease to be a religion, imo.
but, that's another thread.. since leaving wt said this on another thread........i gave him his "another thread".....is so wish i had walked away in 1995 because right away i knew we had just thrown 1914 out the window......since now there was no timelink to the date........no more the end will come during the lifetime of those alive in 1914. i am afraid i disagree with leaving wt on the thought the religion would fail if they totally dump 1914, only because of their history..... they had staked everything on jesus coming invisibly in 1874 and taught that for about 50 years......then kicked 1874 out the window.....and they stuck around after that.
does anybody know how/why they changed this teaching from jesus coming in 1874 and then decided it was 1914?.....................thanks....................oompa.
Oomps, there was a thread about this very subject a couple of months back.
In fact, if I remember correctly, I think the BORG was still referencing 1874, as the date of Christ's return, as late as 1925.
Somebody on here will know...maybe Blondie or Leolaia.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/28/us/28beliefs.html?ref=us&pagewanted=all.
scandanavian nonbelievers, which is not to say atheists
by peter steinfels .
Why should it come as a surprise that the lack of religious influence in everyday life doesn't make a difference in the moral values that people hold?
One of the most irritating things I deal with is the widespread presumption in the United States that:
1. theism (in particular Christianity) is synonomous with morality
and
2. that agnosicism/atheism/humanist values preclude morality
Both assumptions are patently false. I have to say that most of the agnostics/atheists I know have extremely high, unbending moral values.
