Welcome Hittman!!!
But before this thread gets too long can somebody BTTT Hittman's first post?
Alpaca
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Lets welcome Hittman to the board!
by asilentone ini noticed that he did not have a welcome mat here yet, so lets welcome him here.
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The 7th creative day and the 1000 yr. reign--isn't the BORG still on the hook with 1975?
by Alpaca inthe borg has simultaneously used several lines of reasoning in conjunction with one another to argue that we are "in the last days" period of time.
the sequence of events is supposed to be: "the last days," armageddon, and then immediately christ's millenial reign (1000 years).. as i recall one of the pieces of evidence the borg used to bolster the argument for armageddon coming in 1975 was that the period of the 7 creative days was supposed to end up spanning 49,000 years.. according to the "paradise" book and other 50s and 60s publications the 7 creative days started after the earth had been here for a very long time.
each of the 7 creative days was supposed to be 7,000 years long.. god created adam & eve at the very end of the 6th creative day.
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BTW, dismayed...just in case I didn't welcome you on board...
Welcome on board!!!!
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Alpaca
Gays and lesbians choose that identity.
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The 7th creative day and the 1000 yr. reign--isn't the BORG still on the hook with 1975?
by Alpaca inthe borg has simultaneously used several lines of reasoning in conjunction with one another to argue that we are "in the last days" period of time.
the sequence of events is supposed to be: "the last days," armageddon, and then immediately christ's millenial reign (1000 years).. as i recall one of the pieces of evidence the borg used to bolster the argument for armageddon coming in 1975 was that the period of the 7 creative days was supposed to end up spanning 49,000 years.. according to the "paradise" book and other 50s and 60s publications the 7 creative days started after the earth had been here for a very long time.
each of the 7 creative days was supposed to be 7,000 years long.. god created adam & eve at the very end of the 6th creative day.
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The BORG has simultaneously used several lines of reasoning in conjunction with one another to argue that we are "in the last days" period of time. The sequence of events is supposed to be: "the last days," Armageddon, and then immediately Christ's millenial reign (1000 years).
As I recall one of the pieces of evidence the BORG used to bolster the argument for Armageddon coming in 1975 was that the period of the 7 creative days was supposed to end up spanning 49,000 years.
According to the "Paradise" book and other 50s and 60s publications the 7 creative days started after the earth had been here for a very long time. Each of the 7 creative days was supposed to be 7,000 years long.
God created Adam & Eve at the very end of the 6th creative day. But, Adam was created first and there was some time that went by, during which Adam was naming the animals, before Eve was created (this was a fact that the BORG seized on after 1975 failed). The seventh creative day began immediately after humans were created.
According to the BORG 1975 marked the 6,000 year anniversary of Adam's creation. And, that was what fed the 1975 Armageddon frenzy, because the 6,000 years + the 1,000 year reign was supposed be the full time period of the 7th creative day.
When 1975 began receding into the past, they offered the reasoning that because of the unknown period of years between Adam's creation and Eve's creation that same length of unknown time would have to added to 1975 before "the end" and Armageddon would arrive.
That bought the BORG some time, but with all of the other "adjustments in thinking" that have taken place in the last 10 or 15 years, even the doctrines surrounding the seven creative days, that used be part of the core of the "last days" argument, are crumbling.
In addition to the generation of 1914 idea getting shitcanned, the period of time Adam needed to name enough animal speces that would later fit into the Ark, is now becoming ridiculously long as well...it's nearly 35 years. Almost the length of time Noah spent building the Ark and getting all of the animals on board.
My point with all of this is that even if they find some new numerology to create another date for the end, they are still going to have to deal with this aspect of the argument.
Any thoughts or observations?
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Alpaca
Name one that's not.
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Ok- 1st Post here - Anyone from Chicago area?
by mjarka911 inhello and thanks for letting me be a part of this board.
i look forward to some lively and informative discussions.
i know some people from other boards in my area, but thought i would introduce myself and see anyone else is from the chicagor suburban area.. thanks.
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Matt,
Welcome.
Do you feel like sharing your story with us?
If not right away, that's okay.
Alex
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1975 Was Brought Up At the Meeting
by dismayed inso i'm daydreaming through the service meeting last night, (the end of the "supermeeting") and the ms is giving a part on always being ready to defend our faith.
blah blah blah.....you know the drill.
so he invites up a brother to do the demo part.
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Alpaca
He may have been doing that deliberately after learning the truth about what was said about 1975, and trying to alert others to the fact. If not, he may just be completely clueless.
My guess too! That's classic!!!!
If that had been me, I would have been laughing so hard I would have needed to be wearing "Depends."
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Birth Control is Robbing God!!1!
by rebel8 inread this book listing and be sure to read the comments posted after it..
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Alpaca
Here is the fundamental birth control problem:
People whose genes are destroying the gene pool are the ones who don't practice birth control.
And, the people whose genes would enrich the gene pool are the ones who do use birth control.
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Knocking on doors.....How successful is it?
by Quirky1 ini found this to be pretty unsuccessful during my time since i was a jw.
i actually had my interest sparked with the jw's by family members and freinds that were jw's.. were you a statistic of the knock at the door?.
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Alpaca
Quirks said:
When I went out in FS we spent more time and money on coffee shops and rummage sales..WTF!! I felt pretty stoopid going to a garagae sale in a suit...LOL
One time when I was in service 25 years ago I bought a very nice Penn fishing reel for $5 (probably worth $100) at a yard sale. It's probably the most valuable contribution field service ever made to my life. I've caught many fish with it and I still have it to this day.
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A good JW studies all material
by megaflower ini guess i was a lousy jw because i was never very good at preparing for all the meetings.
the "special needs" talk would point out how a good dub will buy out the opportune time.
start the day with the daily text, next listen to the wt on tape as you drive to work.
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Alpaca
As an elder, I used to do it all... TMS conductor, BS conductor, field service, studies, shepherding calls, phone calls, dealing with emergencies the members of the congregation were having.
I barely had any free time for anything other than Dub stuff.
And, I still felt inadequate. My stomach was always in knots. I used take off from work early on Tuesdays so I could finish preparing the material for the TMS that I didn't finish preparing in the 4 to 6 hours I spent on it on Sunday.
I actually had it good because I didn't have children to look after. My heart used to go out to the poor Dubs who did it all with kids--it ran them ragged. And, then if they missed a meeting they were looked down on.
OMG, I didn't realize how bad it was until I was out.