Posts by Alpaca

i heard that they are planning to cut meetings down to twice a week and the book study will become part of the school and service meeting...any one else hear about this?.

Alpaca

Newly Unsure,

The fact that you did not know about the change of meeting of arrangements is a good sign -- it means you're not going to meetings.

Anyway, welcome to JWD. You will find this an interesting place.

Cheers,

Alex

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Another event to cheer up JWs

by Gregor in

possibly 10,000 people killed in myanmar cyclone.

Alpaca

Hi All,

LovesDubs,

Also to be recycling was showing we didnt have faith that the end was near.

That's a new view on me. Was that the company line or just some loose cannon spouting off? Granted, I have been out for almost 11 years and haven't read any of the literature or stepped foot into a KH, but the official view was always that respecting the earth and the resources was the proper thing to do.

Just curious.

Cheers,

Alex

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Post-War Suicides May Exceed Combat Deaths, U.S. Says

by nvrgnbk in

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by avram goldstein.

may 5 (bloomberg) -- the number of suicides among veterans of wars in iraq and afghanistan may exceed the combat death toll because of inadequate mental health care, the u.s. government's top psychiatric researcher said.

community mental health centers, hobbled by financial limits, haven't provided enough scientifically sound care, especially in rural areas, said thomas insel, director of the national institute of mental health in bethesda, maryland.

Alpaca

Everything about the war in Iraq is wrong and this is just one more example of what disaster this administration's foreign policy has been.

Alex

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Bossert Hotel sold

by Aaac in

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watchtower society has found buyer for the famous bossert hotel.

the price was 100 million dollars.

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20080505/free/215086780/1059/toc

Alpaca

This is just one more piece of evidence that the BORG may be in serious financial trouble.

Just maybe .....one more nail in the coffin.

Cheers,

Alex

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"Lost Sheep" Campaign?

by hamsterbait in

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one of metatron's threads had the suggestion that around 2009, the witchtower will try to reverse its losses by going after inactive ones.

lost sheep.. what i will laugh at if this happens, is that the gibbering buddy has already said that one is not judged as a sheep until armageddy.

so how can you be a "lost sheeple" - it is as nonsensical as saying that somebody is a "lost goat".. i can imagine dire threats.

Alpaca

HB,

I don't what your BORG experience history is, but back in the '80s there was a similar effort to contact and reactivate baptized publishers who were MIA. It was a pretty big effort in the congregation I attended -- there were lists and lists of names compiled from old congregation records, personal knowledge of publishers, etc. The elders were assigned names to follow up on and they exhausted all of the possibilities to contact the MIAs.

So, I don't think that it is such a far fetched prediction. The difference is that the people who have faded now, have less of a stake in "end of the system" gibberish when it is so vague and ill defined.

Cheers,

Alex

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Hi everyone I am a newbie and I need help

by philosopher in

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i have been coming here for some months y i must admit that i am still in.

but i have serious doubts, i mean, i am 99.9% convinced, the jws are not the true religion, but i still live with my family, and they are jws, and i love them.

my parents have a long time been jws, and it is very hard for me to tell them the truth.

Alpaca

Hi Philosopher,

Welcome to JWD.

I concur with many of the other posters who recommend taking it easy on trying to confront your family head on with this.

Having said that, I will guarantee you that there is not an old timer Dub alive who does not have doubts in their heart of hearts. They may barely reveal the doubts but the doubts are there. I know this is true because when I was still in (bailed in 1997), once in a while in conversations with old timers who were elders, or special pioneer couples, or sisters who had been in the BORG for 40, 50, 60 years they would make comments lamenting the fact that they fully well expected to be in the new system by then. The sour taste of 1975 and the change in the "generation" change is taking its toll on the BORG's credibility.

Listen to the comments your family makes. If they make comments that express doubt, disappointment, or uncertainty about when the end will come or the authority of the BORG, take the time gently coax them to elaborate. You may be surprised at what you hear. On the other hand, it's true that when someone wraps their life around something that later proves to be an illusion, it can be devastating and can cause the person to go into denial mode, so they may never respond.

All the best and good luck at a very difficult road ahead.

Cheers,

Alex

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GUARDIAN SCIENCE COURSE

by badboy in

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the first one was about the universe.. tomorrow's will be aout genetics in the observor.

Alpaca

Damn, you Brits have all the good shows.

It sounds like an interesting series.

Tell me more about it.

Cheers,

Alex

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Book Requests: Evolution

by MissingLink in

i'm looking for the old 1967 did man get here by evolution or creation.

and the new 1985 life how did it get here, by evloution or by creation.. i'm putting together a nice summary of the lies, and i need the pictures from these books.. .

i saw the 1967 pdf was available at one time here.

Alpaca

MissingLink,

You are probably already familiar with this information, but in case you are not.

For what it is worth, you may want to look at Alan Feuerbach's (sp?) excellent critical analysis of the Dub / Fundie teachings of evolution and the Genesis creation account.

You can find a link to it on the freeminds page (the old site home page, which you can link to through the new site) under the Science tab.

All the best.

Cheers,

Alex