I recall reading about a scandal a few years back in which the BORG printed some Bible for another group that distributed free Bibles (and if I remember correctly, it was the KJV Bible).
Unfortunately, I don't remember any of the details.
Alpaca
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Any Evidence WT has published material for other religions/societies?
by cameo-d injust curious.
after all, they are a big publishing company.. i would think they might have other divisions where the same equip.
is used for publishing literature for other groups.. surely, there is better money in paid contracts.. and other religions as well as societies and organizations have a lot of literature to be printed as well.. has anyone else ever been curious about wt publishing "outside jobs"?.
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Hi from wary
by wary innice to be part of the board at last.
been reading here for around eight months.
very warily at first, but now my mind is out of the org.. i was raised in it and never would have dreamed at looking at internet sites for fear of being misled.
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Welcome wary.
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Is the Watch Tower a reverse Ponzi scheme?
by garybuss instartfragment .
is the watch tower a reverse ponzi scheme?.
isn't a ponzi an affinity scam?
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Alpaca
The "investment" I am referring to is the ultimate investment of lives, hopes, dreams, emotions....until there is nothing left to give...and no hope of ever receiving anything back for the effort.
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Is the Watch Tower a reverse Ponzi scheme?
by garybuss instartfragment .
is the watch tower a reverse ponzi scheme?.
isn't a ponzi an affinity scam?
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Alpaca
This from a thread I started a few months back on the very same topic:
Over the past couple of weeks as the Bernard Maddoff scandal has been unfolding I couldn't help but see the parallels between his ponzi scheme and the WT Society's behavior over its history. The WT Society and the Governing Body have perpetrated a scandalous spiritaul ponzi scheme on some of the most vulnerable members of our society and others who were just good hearted, idealistic people wishing to see a better world.
Just like Maddoff, the WT Society (and by extension the Governing Body):
1. created an "elite" club that could only be joined if you met certain very high standards and were invited to join
2. has always sought the implicit, blind trust of its "investors"
3. encouraged "investors" to invest all the fruits of their lives in the scheme
4. has known in their "heart of hearts" that the whole pitch was/is based on empty promises
5. has kept moving the "prize" so that it is always tantalizingly within reach
6. like many ponzi scheme perpetrators, perhaps started off with honest intentions but then had to twist, distort, and lie to keep the whole thing afloat
7. is remorseless for the uncounted ruined lives, shattered dreams, and stunted potential they have mercilessly imposed on the rank and file
8. will escape adequate justice for the swath of destruction they have left in the wake of their scheme
Yup....Spiritual Ponzi....ya' gotta' love it ......NOT!!!!!
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Just in case you missed it -- great comment by "easyreader" from another thread
by Alpaca inon metatron's thread about dubs going mainstream easyreader said this:.
another issue causing the decay is the lack of a "date".
in order for a cult to work, there has to be a date where everything will culminate.
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Alpaca
On metatron's thread about Dubs going mainstream easyreader said this:
Another issue causing the decay is the lack of a "date". In order for a cult to work, there has to be a date where everything will culminate. Even after 1975 came and went, there was a specific time period even though there was no specific year. The system surely would not last another twenty years, no youths in the organization would reach adulthood before the end came, definitely things would have changed before the turn of the century.The turn of the century happened, people who were in their teens, twenties, and thirties are now older, some working in terrible fields or are unable to change their professions because they were herded into window washing or sand blasting.
With no date, you've got no cult. People aren't storming out of the kingdom hall doors in disgust; they're just slowly slipping away. The money problem just makes it worse.
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The 7th creative day and the 1000 yr. reign--isn't the BORG still on the hook with 1975?
by Alpaca inthe borg has simultaneously used several lines of reasoning in conjunction with one another to argue that we are "in the last days" period of time.
the sequence of events is supposed to be: "the last days," armageddon, and then immediately christ's millenial reign (1000 years).. as i recall one of the pieces of evidence the borg used to bolster the argument for armageddon coming in 1975 was that the period of the 7 creative days was supposed to end up spanning 49,000 years.. according to the "paradise" book and other 50s and 60s publications the 7 creative days started after the earth had been here for a very long time.
each of the 7 creative days was supposed to be 7,000 years long.. god created adam & eve at the very end of the 6th creative day.
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Thanks undercover!
Doesn't this "noo light" create some other problems for them?
Such as the fact, according to Bible chronology, humans have only been here for 6,000 years and the next youngest species are all millions of years old. So, one of two things has to be true, but not both...either the geologic/paleontological record can really only be applied to non-human life or the Bible's chronology of human lifespans is wrong/figurative. If it is figurative, then so is the date for the Flood... and on and on and on....with every other date.
Also, the fossil record clearly shows that many species appeared and disappeared relatively quickly in the geologic record, some persisted for 100s of millions of years, and others have persisted from the time they first appeard.
While God was still in the process of creating were some species going extinct before Adam could name them?
The BS in the WT article above is just one more excellent example of the BORGs feeble attempt at explaining anything. There whole belief system is just a house of cards.
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The 7th creative day and the 1000 yr. reign--isn't the BORG still on the hook with 1975?
by Alpaca inthe borg has simultaneously used several lines of reasoning in conjunction with one another to argue that we are "in the last days" period of time.
the sequence of events is supposed to be: "the last days," armageddon, and then immediately christ's millenial reign (1000 years).. as i recall one of the pieces of evidence the borg used to bolster the argument for armageddon coming in 1975 was that the period of the 7 creative days was supposed to end up spanning 49,000 years.. according to the "paradise" book and other 50s and 60s publications the 7 creative days started after the earth had been here for a very long time.
each of the 7 creative days was supposed to be 7,000 years long.. god created adam & eve at the very end of the 6th creative day.
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Blues Brother,
Thanks. I have been out for nearly 12 years and I don't keep up with the "noo light" as it gets brighter.
So, it sounds as though they have shitcanned that line of reasoning as well.
I guess the nebulous length of the creative days also clears up all of those pesky problems with the evidence that life has been on Earth for billions of years.
It seems like they are running out options.
A poster on another thread ("easyreader") made a very good comment that a cult without a date cannot survive. So, if a new date for the end is not in the works, the BORG is probably going to shrivel up and die.
One can only hope.
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Lets welcome Hittman to the board!
by asilentone ini noticed that he did not have a welcome mat here yet, so lets welcome him here.
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Alpaca
Welcome Hittman!!!
But before this thread gets too long can somebody BTTT Hittman's first post?
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The 7th creative day and the 1000 yr. reign--isn't the BORG still on the hook with 1975?
by Alpaca inthe borg has simultaneously used several lines of reasoning in conjunction with one another to argue that we are "in the last days" period of time.
the sequence of events is supposed to be: "the last days," armageddon, and then immediately christ's millenial reign (1000 years).. as i recall one of the pieces of evidence the borg used to bolster the argument for armageddon coming in 1975 was that the period of the 7 creative days was supposed to end up spanning 49,000 years.. according to the "paradise" book and other 50s and 60s publications the 7 creative days started after the earth had been here for a very long time.
each of the 7 creative days was supposed to be 7,000 years long.. god created adam & eve at the very end of the 6th creative day.
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BTW, dismayed...just in case I didn't welcome you on board...
Welcome on board!!!!
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Alpaca
Gays and lesbians choose that identity.