Posts by Alpaca

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Captcha is not working consistently

by Alpaca in

after identifying/choosing the appropriate pictures/photos the verify button does not respond.

the captcha screen just sits there.

it has been taking multiple attempts to be able to finally sign in.

Alpaca

After identifying/choosing the appropriate pictures/photos the verify button does not respond. The Captcha screen just sits there. It has been taking multiple attempts to be able to finally sign in.

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I think we are witnessing (haha) the wind up for the long speculated (on this forum) 2034 pitch. Ths BORG thrives on setting dates. That's about 20 years away...roughly the same span of time during which they hyped 1975.

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Carl Sagan Quotation

by Mum in

the scientific mind can hone in on some great, but sometimes obvious facts.

i love this one:.

one of the saddest lessons of history is this: if we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle.

Alpaca

This one is even better. This topic has come here numerous times in the past but I couldn't quickly find the posts. Anyway, here it is:

Carl Sagan's Remarks About Jehovah's Witnesses False Prophecies

Alan Feuerbacher

A few years after the complete collapse of everything C. T. Russell had predicted, J. F. Rutherford began a process of replacing Russell's unfulfilled predictions with a series of invisible and spiritual events associated with the years 1914 and 1918. By the early 1930s the process was complete.

An interesting comment on this transformation was made by Carl Sagan in his book Broca's Brain (New York: Ballantine Books, 1979, pp. 332-333):

Doctrines that make no predictions are less compelling than those which make correct predictions; they are in turn more successful than doctrines that make false predictions.

But not always. One prominent American religion confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914. Well, 1914 has come and gone, and -- while the events of that year were certainly of some importance -- the world does not, at least so far as I can see, seem to have ended. There are at least three responses that an organized religion can make in the face of such a failed and fundamental prophecy. They could have said, "Oh, did we say '1914'? So sorry, we meant '2014.' A slight error in calculation. Hope you weren't inconvenienced in any way." But they did not. They could have said, "Well, the world would have ended, except we prayed very hard and interceded with God so He spared the Earth." But they did not. Instead, they did something much more ingenious.

They announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout. It is astonishing in the face of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all. But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof. The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough-mindedness of the believers. But it does indicate, if a demonstration were needed, that near the core of the religious experience is something remarkably resistant to rational inquiry.

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What song or line from a song bests describes your time as a JW?????

by karter in

waisted days and waisted nites.. freddy fender..

Alpaca

Billy Joel Stranger Lyrics Album: Greatest Hits Volume I & Volume II Lyrics:

Well we all have a face
That we hide away forever
And we take them out and show ourselves
When everyone has gone
Some are satin some are steel
Some are silk and some are leather
They're the faces of the stranger
But we love to try them on

Well, we all fall in love
But we disregard the danger
Though we share so many secrets
There are some we never tell
Why were you so surprised
That you never saw the stranger
Did you ever let your lover see
The stranger in yourself?

Don't be afraid to try again
Everyone goes south
Every now and then
You've done it, why can't someone else?
You should know by now
You've been there yourself

Once I used to believe
I was such a great romancer
Then I came home to a woman
That I could not recognize
When I pressed her for a reason
She refused to even answer
It was then I felt the stranger
Kick me right between the eyes

Well, we all fall in love
But we disregard the danger
Though we share so many secrets
There are some we never tell
Why were you so surprised
That you never saw the stranger
Did you ever let your lover see
The stranger in yourself?

Don't be afraid to try again
Everyone goes south
Every now and then
You've done it why can't someone else?
You should know by now
You've been there yourself

You may never understand
How the stranger is inspired
But he isn't always evil
And he isn't always wrong
Though you drown in good intentions
You will never quench the fire
You'll give in to your desire
When the stranger comes along.

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Where is the Statement That JWs Should Follow the GB Even If They Think They Are Wrong?

by Justitia Themis in

i am having difficulty locating the recent printed statement that jws should follow the gb even if they think they are wrong.

would someone please let me know where that is?.

jt.

Alpaca

OOPS ... I've had a Rick Perry moment. Later on, I'll see if I can figure out how to embed the vid.

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Where is the Statement That JWs Should Follow the GB Even If They Think They Are Wrong?

by Justitia Themis in

i am having difficulty locating the recent printed statement that jws should follow the gb even if they think they are wrong.

would someone please let me know where that is?.

jt.

Alpaca

An oldy but a goody for the benefit of those who haven't seen it:

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"Losing My Religion" Film Project needs help

by Dogpatch in

jw
friends

passing this on from jim moon:.

subject: exjw documentaryhi everyone!.

one of my exjw friends in los angeles is developing a documentary about the jws entitled "losing my religion" and he asked me to forward information to anyone i thought might be interested in helping out with its development.

Alpaca

BTTT

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Where is Alpaca?

by cameo-d in

jw
friends

i am wondering if he ever really did try "couch surfing"?

i found a website about it and i wonder if it has become a real movement?

http://www.couchsurfing.org/.

Alpaca

Hey Cameo,

Thanks for asking about me. Hope all is well with you. I am fine...I occassionally stop by the board to look at the current active topics being discussed. I have only made one post on here in the last year because I found that the excessive time I was spending on the board was not the best use of my time and energy. So far, I have not gotten around to trying the couch surfing venture, although I have seen some web sites where surfers and hosts can register and submit reviews as a way to increase the safety for both surfers and hosts.

Another reason that I quit posting and conversing here on the board was because I always seemed to end up in debates where personal attacks overshadowed the genuine issues at hand. It was an erosive / corrosive agent in my life that needed to be replaced with more edifying stuff. Too bad, because there are lots of genuinely nice and considerate people on here (like you).

Having said all of the above, I may stop back and join in with you guys at some future point. For right now, I am trying to get a new post-Dub career moving in the right direction.

Cheers to you and all the other posters...especially all of the newbies...it's great to see the huge numbers of people who are waking up to the BORG's lies and deceit.

Alpaca

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The end is nigh!

by highdose in

jw
friends

after a year of having been out and 7 months on jwn, i like to think that i'm pretty well deprogrammed.. one thing i still have trouble with though is the mental attitude of thinking that the end is coming soon.

difficult to explain this, but its like a mental awareness that is always there no matter what.. and of course the end is not coming, i just don't know how to get my brain to realise this?!?

!.

Alpaca

Pick up a Historical Geology textbook ... that will fix it.

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What songs or song lyrics remind you of your escape from the Witnesses?

by cluless in

jw
friends

judus priest ..."i was lost and found".

and niel young ..i believe in you..... "now that you find yourself loosing your mind are you here again-.

finding that once what you felt was real has gone and changing....... .

Alpaca

Okay I know I promised to stay off of this board for a while...but I could not resist this one.

The Talking Heads....Once In A Lifetime

And you may find yourself living in a shotgun shack
And you may find yourself in another part of the world
And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful
Wife
And you may ask yourself-well...how did I get here?

Letting the days go by/let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by/water flowing underground
Into the blue again/after the moneys gone
Once in a lifetime/water flowing underground.

And you may ask yourself
How do I work this?
And you may ask yourself
Where is that large automobile?
And you may tell yourself
This is not my beautiful house!
And you may tell yourself
This is not my beautiful wife!

Letting the days go by/let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by/water flowing underground
Into the blue again/after the moneys gone
Once in a lifetime/water flowing underground.

Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...
Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...
Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...

Water dissolving...and water removing
There is water at the bottom of the ocean
Carry the water at the bottom of the ocean
Remove the water at the bottom of the ocean!

Letting the days go by/let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by/water flowing underground
Into the blue again/in the silent water
Under the rocks and stones/there is water underground.

Letting the days go by/let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by/water flowing underground
Into the blue again/after the moneys gone
Once in a lifetime/water flowing underground.

And you may ask yourself
What is that beautiful house?
And you may ask yourself
Where does that highway go?
And you may ask yourself
Am I right? ...am I wrong?
And you may tell yourself
My god!...what have I done?

Letting the days go by/let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by/water flowing underground
Into the blue again/in the silent water
Under the rocks and stones/there is water underground.

Letting the days go by/let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by/water flowing underground
Into the blue again/after the moneys gone
Once in a lifetime/water flowing underground.

Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...
Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was...
Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...