Posts by MADMARY

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BRANCH OVERSEER : "Apostates are GOOD people !"

by Aleph in

this is quite incredible.during his talk, the branch overseer, made a special talk dedicated to the apostates.. he clearly emphasis his point, "apostates used to be between us, really you can talk with apostates, those people are good, of course their point of vue is different than ours now but they are mostly very nice poeple, and you shouldn't be afraid to talk with them.

"though as usual, the reaction of the brothers was quite the same, impassive, i was very surprise by this statement.i cannot assume if this is just a one man step ahead towards the apostates, or really a change in their policies, this came from the mouth of a branch overseer.of course, for obvious reason, i won't give the name of the brother, which is famous, but only here in an central european country.i would have expected him to quote more scriptures, but he didn't, he could have use the one for jesus himself :"you should love your enemies", as apostates were really the "enemies" for the wtbs for such a long time, maybe now that the king of the north is awaken, apostates are not so bad after all ?

just wondering....

MADMARY

See article:

"Jehovah's Witnesses & Revelation 12...A Glimpse into the Future"

MM

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Holy Spirit - Present or Gone in the Congregations?

by BourneIdentity in

i was doing some reminiscing and remember the days back in the late 80s and early 90s where i truly could say the meetings were so encouraging and that i felt the holy spirit present and operating on all of us.

today when i attend, there is nothing of the sort.

is it because jehovah has withheld it?

MADMARY

Hi Borneidenity,

Since the Holy Spirit is invisible, a human cannot see it. To answer your question properly we have to look to hard evidence to prove that the Holy Spirit does or does not exist and is active and exists among Jehovah Witnesses or not. All of this means to a person who does not believe in God or the bible, despite all of the evidence presented, still the Holy Spirit will never ever exist to them. Remember, the Bible tells us that even the demons believe God exists because they can see Jehovah does exist where as humans cannot. – See James 2:19

Yes, Borneidentity the rank and file JW doesn't even resemble a Jehovah Witness from the 80’s or 90’s or in 2001 which was the last time I was inside a kingdom hall. I believe Jehovah has taken His holy spirit away from the organization.

Please check out my thread at this link called, “Is The REPORT Book (1994) Prophetic About Jehovah Witnesses?,” which I believe makes this very point.

There was another thread last week where an unbelieving mate with a JW for a wife of 10 years, he gives a description of his wife and asks the question, “Is my situation unique?”

This unbelieving husband says his JW wife goes to all meetings as he takes her. But if he asks about the bible or how a meeting or assembly went she changes the subject and will not talk about it. She simply refuses to witness. He even says his wife will not even pick up a bible or Watchtower literature to read or study at home.

So, this man (Steel) just wants to know if his situation unique or has this happen to other Jehovah’s Witnesses.

I believe we are seeing evidence today that God’s Holy Spirit has been taken away from the JW organization.

MM

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Is The "Report" Book (1994) Prophetic About Jehovah's Witnesses?

by MADMARY in

steel.

so ubm here.i have a jw wife who in 10 years of marriage i have never seen actually read the bible, never given a witness to me, never had a biblical discussion.

for a number of years now hardly even reads the magazines.

MADMARY

So, is it true that Jehovah' Witnesses have strangely lost their will, desire, and motivation to preach their "Good News" message to the world? (Matthew 24:14)

Could this explain why the door to door/house to house work is down by all accounts around the world, with so many leaving the pioneer ranks and returning to secular activities and money making in the world? (Acts 20:20)

Could this possibly explain why at the assemblies, we are seeing more and more children at the ages of eight or nine from Witness families being baptized instead of adults being baptized?

If this is true and the preaching work is down everywhere, then could this explain why they have gone to the 'sit-by-the-cart- no-talking preaching method, where the free literature talks for them? Of course this type of preaching eliminates the need to defend their beliefs, if challenged. (1 Peter 3:15)

Why there is even talk and speculation that they are going to get rid of in the near future counting hours and turning in field service time, no doubt because the preaching work is down everywhere.

Hmmmmm,

I wonder, could this and other factors be considered HARD EVIDENCE that Jehovah God has indeed taken away His Spirit and blessings from this apostate organization and people? (See Zechariah 4:6)

So you mean, Jehovah's Witnesses... just don't "witness" no more?

MM

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Is The "Report" Book (1994) Prophetic About Jehovah's Witnesses?

by MADMARY in

steel.

so ubm here.i have a jw wife who in 10 years of marriage i have never seen actually read the bible, never given a witness to me, never had a biblical discussion.

for a number of years now hardly even reads the magazines.

MADMARY

Steel said:
So UBM here.
i have a jw wife who in 10 years of marriage I have never seen actually read the bible, never given a witness to me, never had a biblical discussion. For a number of years now hardly even reads the magazines. I pick her after meetings and ask her what she learned and she changes the subject.

Smiddy3 said:
Even when I was "in" I was surprised at how many Elders /MS did not want to discuss the Bible or religion outside of the meetings the common reason was "oh we get enough of that at our meetings this is our free time .

Toes Up said:
I think there are a lot more people,within the borg, who act like this. They go for social reasons and can tell others they went to "church" on Sunday. lol

StephaneLaliberte said:
Steel: I can tell you that someone in my family is exactly like that. However, I wouldn't call them frauds. Remember, they are spending a lot of times at the meetings and assembly being told that they are studying the bible as a group and they believe it.
The above was taken from this thread: "Is my situation unique?"

All those descriptions above of how JWs are acting NOW are the opposite and nothing at all like what the witnesses were like twenty years ago,when I left! Bach then, you could not keep them quiet about what they had learn. Wow!

As a bible reader myself, can you tell me,"HOW CAN YOU BE COMPLETELY SURE, ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING TO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TODAY IS NOT BY JEHOVAH GOD'S HAND?"

And this is especially in view of what Jesus said at John 12:39, 40 where Jesus quotes Isaiah 6:9, 10 as happening to an apostate people and nation. -- Also see Isaiah 28:13.

MM

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Is The "Report" Book (1994) Prophetic About Jehovah's Witnesses?

by MADMARY in

steel.

so ubm here.i have a jw wife who in 10 years of marriage i have never seen actually read the bible, never given a witness to me, never had a biblical discussion.

for a number of years now hardly even reads the magazines.

MADMARY

Steel
So UBM here.
i have a jw wife who in 10 years of marriage I have never seen actually read the bible, never given a witness to me, never had a biblical discussion. For a number of years now hardly even reads the magazines. I pick her after meetings and ask her what she learned and she changes the subject.
I was raised in the church and without being very religous , I like to think I have some idea of the bible narrative. I have been told by witnesses they are impressed with my biblical knowledge level, yet they have no interest in talking to me about biblical matters once they find out I am not completely ignorant of bible theology.
Getting back to my wife. Every saturday morning, Sunday morning , Tuesday day, assembly and circuit overseer visit. It's s complete dog and pony show . Outside of the complete obedience to the governing body , my wife is an absolute fraud . It's just shocking how much time is wasted for nothing.
My question, how many witnesses live like this.

Hi Steel,

Probably, your situation is not unique among Jehovah's Witnesses today.

This is because Jehovah's Witnesses are under special punishment and discipline from God for their practice of sin, particularly their wicked secret affiliation with the United Nations Organization as NGO supporters during the 1990s...up to the year of 2001 when this situation was made public. This action on their parts proved to be a serious sin to God, a covenant-breaker in fact and one where they must be severely punished by Jehovah, and which will ultimately result in the complete destruction of this people as a religious organization, as foretold by Bible prophecy.

In fact, this situation has all been summarized long ago in a publication called the "Report".

See Link to publication: The "Report" Book

Because of this great sin on the part of organization leadership, In time, the Watchtower Society Organization with its Governing Body will be revealed to all as being the wicked "Man of Lawlessness" and the organization leadership staff itself being the fulfillment of "Babylon The Great" of Bible prophecy because of this situation and other acts of wickedness. -- See 2 Thess. 2:3-12; Revelation 18:2-4.

See Article and Link: Jehovah's Witnesses Are In Apostasy!

There are many prophecies in the bible that show this to be the immediate future for Jehovah's Witnesses.

This spiritual condition will continue to be the case and even worsen, until a smaller group of them (called the "Male Child" Rev. 12:5 and "Four Angels bound at the Euphrates" Rev 9.13, 14), finally recognize that it is really Jehovah God Himself that is punishing them, and they are finally willing to repent and willingly break from this apostate organization, and form a newer, refined spiritual group of servants of Jehovah, who will ultimately give proper spiritual leadership to the world, with God's Blessing. -- Isaiah 30:26; Jeremiah 23:20; Micah 4:6,7.

What you described above in your wife, is a Jehovah's Witness who has been totally stripped of God's Holy Spirit, as has been the case with the entire world wide organization, where Jesus, as Head of the Christian Congregation, has completely "removed their lampstand from its place," completely depriving it from receiving any of God's Holy Spirit. (See Rev. 2:5) Because of this condition, many of them (JWs) are now acting as spiritual "zombies" ... walking around aimlessly, with no spiritual direction in life at all. The same is true of the JW Organization. Many now show no interest in discussing the bible or having spiritual discussions at all with other people, OUTSIDE of the Kingdom Halls. Indeed, many JWs are now showing signs to be spiritually dead, spiritual "zombies" ... for all to see. Jehovah God and Jesus Christ, has done this to them, for their wickedness. -- See Isaiah 6:9, 10; John 12:39, 40

... Hope this helps.

Observer1217

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The above was taken from this thread: "Is my situation unique?"

MM

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"The messiah" was to come from the "line of David" right??

by stuckinarut2 in

a huge realization hit me the other day while listening to a podcast that discussed the "lineage of jesus".. according to the bible, "the messiah" was to come through king davids lineage.

but, if you wade through the entire chapter of matthew that lists "son of ...son of...son of...etc", it becomes obvious that jesus did not come through davids line at all!.

in fact, that lineage lists jospeh (mary's husband) as being in davids line.

MADMARY

Hello Stuckinarut,

I have been thinking about what you said:

In fact, that lineage lists JOSEPH (Mary's husband) as being in Davids line. Yet he supposedly had nothing to do with Mary's impregnation - as that was done by "Holy Spirit by Jehovah" before Joseph ever had relations with Mary! (if you believe that)

And if you are right, Joseph had NOTHING to do in 'making' Jesus. Which could mean Mary did not contribute any DNA either. If Mary had contributed then Jesus would not only be descendant of David but a descendant of Adam & Eve too...but Jesus was PERFECT! All that said, it seems Mary was a surrogate mother. Jehovah placed the perfect embryo in Mary's womb.

So what do you think?

MM

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"The messiah" was to come from the "line of David" right??

by stuckinarut2 in

a huge realization hit me the other day while listening to a podcast that discussed the "lineage of jesus".. according to the bible, "the messiah" was to come through king davids lineage.

but, if you wade through the entire chapter of matthew that lists "son of ...son of...son of...etc", it becomes obvious that jesus did not come through davids line at all!.

in fact, that lineage lists jospeh (mary's husband) as being in davids line.

MADMARY

Hello Stuckinarut,

Wow, what a catch! How astute you are!

Jesus DID NOT come through Davids line at all!

If Jesus is NOT a descendant of David then he is NOT a descendant of Adam & Eve either, which is a prerequisite of Genesis 3:15, right!?!

Yes, I have notice some other things like the Davidic heir's kingdom is one lasts forever on earth not, not the kind of kingdom that ENDS with an 'until--UNTIL' he hands the keys back to his Father kind of kingdom.

Hmmmm, this really makes you think...

MM

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The origins of personified spirits and demons

by Doug Mason in

for the jews, personified spirit beings, good and evil, along with demons, originated during the 3rd and 2nd centuries bce.. https://jwstudies.com/crucible__powers_above.pdf .

this file will be available very temporarily.. doug.

MADMARY

Hi Doug,

Very interesting read!

This is a quote from the 8th chapter of The book called “CRUCIBLE of FAITH” that you posted a link to. It is very telling and matches our research too:

In the Jewish context, the word implies a human figure who would appear to usher in the end of the present world order, to bring in a new era of holiness, justice, and divine rule. Commonly, this person is portrayed as a descendant of David's line, and he might be seen as either royal or priestly."

It also talks about what the book of Enoch says, how the son of man [messiah] was ‘hidden.’ Also he, the son of man would be a descendant of David to fulfill the Davidic Covenant. Which would mean this person would have be a descendant of Adam & Eve too…just like Jews believe. Because Jesus is a son of God NOT a son of MAN.

Again thanks, nice find!

MM

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12/31/2018 World-wide action “Escape from the watchtower" #escapefromthewatchtower

by AlexPancho in

good afternoon!

we are ex jehovah's witnesses.. in this video, we begin the world-wide action.

we call it action “escape from the watchtower”.. slavery in the united states was abolished on december 18, 1865. the fortress law in russia was abolished(аболиш) on february 19, 1861.. but jehovah's witnesses are still in captivity, in fear that they or their loved ones will ban communication through a procedure known as disfellowship.. we offer three easy steps to release:.