Posts by nvrgnbk

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If the bible is from God then explain this!

by Anti-Christ in

nu 31:17-18 moses, following the lord's command, orders the israelites to kill all the midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (note: how would it be determined which women had known men?

one can only speculate.

dt 21:10-13 with the lord's approval, the israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives.

nvrgnbk

I didn't take it wrong, brother. We're good. I'd love to buy you a pint or five.

Nvr

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Would you die for what you believe?

by avidbiblereader in

with many strong feelings or beliefs either way for christianity, atheism, jw would you be willing to die for your beliefs, or are they just feelings that never come from the heart?

if faced with death for your beliefs, would you?.

abr.

nvrgnbk

abr Since we all have beliefs, we're all going to die for them. I think the question to ask should be, "do you have the courage to live for your beliefs?" A life worth living is a life worth dying for!

Nicely put Deputy Dog. That's kinda what I was trying to say. Those of us who walked away from the WT hope(albeit a false hope)

have chosen to live now instead of waiting for some future reward. That is courage. We are the heroes! ( Maybe that last part's a little bit much

but you get my drift.) We have all received a death-sentence(albeit an illegitimate one) from the WT. According to their dogma, we are going to

die for not recognizing their claim of rulership over us.

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If the bible is from God then explain this!

by Anti-Christ in

nu 31:17-18 moses, following the lord's command, orders the israelites to kill all the midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (note: how would it be determined which women had known men?

one can only speculate.

dt 21:10-13 with the lord's approval, the israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives.

nvrgnbk

Pretty much every culture has its concept of Deity, and to a remarkably similar degree. In my wide studies of religion I have concluded that generally religions have more in common than not. I would posit that your question is answered in that fact.

I'm very careful not to be dogmatic about the matter. I hope I made it pretty clear that I feel unsure about God's existence and true identity. I am sure of one thing. If I make good decisions on a reasonably consistent basis I enjoy a reasonable degree of success. If I do the opposite, I get the opposite result. In other words, I've got to carry on. And I'm doing just that. Jehovah, if He exists and cares and that is His name in the English tongue, knows better than anyone what I've seen in my short life and why I feel the way I do about things. I would humbly welcome any illumination He would throw my way. I just lost any and all confidence that such illumination could come from the arrogant and out-of-touch Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. I'm not angry and bitter, I'm hurt and disappointed.

Thank you for your response, LT. I have been reading your comments for a couple of years. I respect both your logic and your faith.

The post that you responded to above was not meant to arrogantly discount God. If it came across that way, I apologize. Rather it was a response to the dogmatism that is often displayed in such matters. From my more recent post, you see my heart and mind on the subject. I guess what I'm trying to say LT is that I would like to regain faith. With the mental gymnastics I was forced to do for 30+ years as both a JW and a thinker( is that an oxymoron?), it's not going to be easy for me. I sincerely (in all truth and seriousness) welcome any help that may be offered in this regard.

Nvr

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WHOPPING WTS LIES ON BLOOD

by DannyHaszard in

richard parker, a member of the jehovah`s witnesses, says that the refusal of transfusions is one of their fundamental beliefs.

based on what is written in the bible.. .

... that while it is a controversial issue, the refusal of transfusions is a matter of faith for witnesses, and deserves to be respected as their choice.

nvrgnbk

Murderous Watchtower is run 99% by greedy lawyers,and holy spirit,humanitarianism,love,common sense is nowhere.Jesus said that his true followers would be the "salt of the earth" the Watchtower leadership is the SCUM of the earth

LYING, FORKED- TONGUED, ARROGANT, LEGALISTIC, UNFEELING, CLOSED-MINDED, EGOTISTICAL..............and things I shall not utter(let the reader use discernment) GOVERNING BODY

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Think Russell was an original thinker? Check this out- Adventist Chart 1843

by nvrgnbk in

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/millerite_1843_chart.jpg

nvrgnbk

I am humbled. Maybe one day I'll deserve the title my JW brother has given me (with affection) The Apostanator.

Keep on rockin' Danny.

12

The Joy of Sect

by Abandoned in

ok, now i know a bunch of you have to have seen this episode of the simpsons.

it's where homer gets a tract from some cultists at the airport and decides to attend their retreat.. .

the simpsons are seated around the dinner table talking.. marge: "what?".

nvrgnbk

Homer: Upset. "Marge when I join an underground cult I expect a little support from my family."

Priceless!

Thanks abandoned.

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Remnant in Great Britain. Dead or Alive.

by ThomasCovenant in

jw
friends

i remember reading probably in some old kingom ministries where the number of memorial partakers in great britain was reported.

i'll see if i can retrieve them.

from memory it was in the hundreds.

nvrgnbk

All the "anointed" in my part of the country are considered to be crazies. Even the COs hold them in disdain.

Sorry. After I posted I realized that the topic applies specifically to UK. Apologies.

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AN INTERESTING LETTER

by Terry in

supplement to .

zion's watch tower,.

"herald of christ's presence.

nvrgnbk

Wasn't CT like an apostate himself? How is what he did there any different than a brother leaving the org. for reasons of conscience?

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This just ain't right!

by RR in

celion dion singing ac/dc's "you shook me all night long" ... is nothing sacred????.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=font47z0kzg.

.

nvrgnbk

LOL! RR

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Do Watchtower Flashbacks Still Haunt You?

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

do vietnam watchtower flashbacks still haunt you?occasionally, there are times in which i get up from a sound sleep.

tearful because of my vietnam watchtower flashbacks of being.

one of jehovahs witnesses.. sad to say, these dreams come back to haunt me in a negative way.. do you ever dream of still being stuck in the organization?are there times in which you find yourself back in the kingdom.

nvrgnbk

I will tell you this wanderer, and I'm dead serious. For years prior to my exit/fade, I used to fantasize about being an ex-Witness.