so why are some people so adamant one way or another?
Because living in mystery is scary.
Yeah.
Delusion is often more comfortable than reality.
For some, reality is unbearable.
that a surpreme being is gonna help us?.
on another thread that i started i asked what is wrong with the new age ideas.
some people seem so afraid of it.. one poster mentioned that new age stuff is incorrect because jesus is for sure gonna come take us away from this world.. now i am opened minded.
so why are some people so adamant one way or another?
Because living in mystery is scary.
Yeah.
Delusion is often more comfortable than reality.
For some, reality is unbearable.
the watchtower sunday made a claim to the effect that when science conflicts with the bible, the bible has always been proven to be correct.
if i had been there, i would have asked "could you provide some specific examples"?.
i'm thinking that reality is actually the other way, science always disproves the bible.
The WTBTS says science is always proven wrong by the Bible!
Borg: God created everything.
Questioner: How do we know?
Borg: Because it says right here. <holds up a NWT bible>
Questioner: But.....
Borg: Take a look at this. <holds up Creation book, published by the WTBTS>
Questioner: Ok but scientists have found a lot of evolutionary evidence.
Borg: They're wrong. They're always wrong.
Questioner: Who says.
Borg: God says.
Questioner: Where's the proof.
Borg: Here. <holds up NWT bible>
ad infinitum
Well done.
Just throw in a little "just look how screwed up the world is" for good measure.
"Mankind can't solve our problems, so that means that God has to do something, and soon!"
i have a sense of life, don't you?.
i have a sense of what i don't want to spend my time doing, what i'd prefer doing and what i'll only do if i absolutely have to.. don't you?.
if i find myself running out of time and i can't do everything on my list---i try to do the most important thing.
I hope that my son will be a better human being than I was.
I try to give him the love and affection that I wished I would have gotten.
He's kept me alive when I had no other reason to go on.
the watchtower sunday made a claim to the effect that when science conflicts with the bible, the bible has always been proven to be correct.
if i had been there, i would have asked "could you provide some specific examples"?.
i'm thinking that reality is actually the other way, science always disproves the bible.
Only God knows what is written in the Bible means,
So God had the Bible written for Himself?
after hearing the stupidity of last sunday's watchtower about trusting the bible over science, no matter what, i'm ready to educate myself.. science wasn't one of my strong subjects in high school; didn't like formulas and all that, but i'm ready to learn now.. so, where should i start?.
so i've been seeing this jw girl for a couple weeks now... she kind of contacted me out of the blue (i've known her since i was 4, shes two years older than i) and wanted to hook up for coffee or something.
i avoided it for about half a month.
not really avoided it, but was going to have fun with it when it came, because i thought she was just going to try to encourage me to go to meetings and whatnot.. so, first time she calls me up at like 9:30pm on a weeknight to come over to her house... so i ride my bicycle over and go inside and she and her cousin were getting drunk on alcohol and they started getting me to drink.
You probably have good intentions, Mincan.
Those criticizing you probably do too.
Same can be said for those defending you.
I'm glad you rode out your suicidal patch and you're still with us as our human brother, existing- to be loved, misunderstood, belittled, defended, judged, sermonized, and wished well.
the watchtower sunday made a claim to the effect that when science conflicts with the bible, the bible has always been proven to be correct.
if i had been there, i would have asked "could you provide some specific examples"?.
i'm thinking that reality is actually the other way, science always disproves the bible.
The statement was designed for those who wouldn't dare question it.
If you question the Bible and find it to be unworthy of your confidence then 'you weren't of our sort anyway.'
It works quite beautifully.
that a surpreme being is gonna help us?.
on another thread that i started i asked what is wrong with the new age ideas.
some people seem so afraid of it.. one poster mentioned that new age stuff is incorrect because jesus is for sure gonna come take us away from this world.. now i am opened minded.
We're all we got.
Sometimes the truth hurts.
how far we've come in just the last ten years.. just ten short years ago, the term jw "apostate" still carried a stigma of held-over shame to most ex-jws and they rarely called themselves by that term.
i wore that badge proudly, but i had already been out of the wts for over 20 years by then.
slowly, but steadily the term went from shame to neutral to a badge of honor!
You are treading dangerously, my friend.Are you sure you want to take up that cup?
Sylvia
Why so concerned, Sylvia?
You know I love you, sister.
all the talk on recent threads about what is real and what is beyond the explainable made me decide to reveal something that happened to me.
i usually keep these things close to the vest, because i truly do believe in the phrase: "he that knows does not speak.
he that speaks does not know.
That was beautifully written.