Drew Sagan says...."The Watchtower has been very effective in convincing the average JW member that the past is not relevant".
Drew's right about this, but what about how other religions have gotten things wrong in the past? Isn't the WT organization the first to point this out?
And, these so called "past" things are also about what's being taught by them now, the present... 607BC, the wring date for Jerusalem's destruction, was backed up by Russell using calculations in the Great Pyramid of Giza... the relevance? It's partially how they come up with the whole 1914 lie they've taught for years and still teach.
The light's getting brighter, and they no longer can shine their lies up my ass any more.
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5My first "apostasy" mission
by easyreader1970 inyesterday was my first small attempt at "apostasy".
i thought i did a very good job of it myself.
i had some interesting results.. i tried on two people: my wife (the biggest, baddest jw you could ever come up against) and my mother (who used to be but has cooled in the past ten or twelve years or so).
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REM show last night... my critique
by dawg inin art, there can be no wrong opinions, we like what we like and have to offer no explanation for what we like and/or do not like.
that said... my take on last night's rem concert at lakewood amphitheater.
ok, so i'm an athenian, that means i'm supposed to love all things athens, georgia is about; but i've never been a big rem fan... in fact, when i was offered front row tickets given by the band themselves, i really didn't want to go.
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To think about Stipe dissing the Beatles, and then writing the drivel he writes.. that's embarrassing.
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REM show last night... my critique
by dawg inin art, there can be no wrong opinions, we like what we like and have to offer no explanation for what we like and/or do not like.
that said... my take on last night's rem concert at lakewood amphitheater.
ok, so i'm an athenian, that means i'm supposed to love all things athens, georgia is about; but i've never been a big rem fan... in fact, when i was offered front row tickets given by the band themselves, i really didn't want to go.
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Yea seeker, they are overrated.
Flipper, you're right about his arrogance, I sat at a table with him 2 years ago and he acted like an ass, but I called him out and said I wasn't a fan of his music... He's liked me ever since and makes it a point to talk to me when he sees me. Peace. -
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Dinner guest- When you bring wine shouldn't they offer you some?
by Witness 007 ini've gone to many a witness dinner where i would bring one or two nice wines, hoping we would have some with dinner.
{to numb the boring conversations} only, to find the couple say "thanks" put it in the cabnet....and serve up lemonade..... and it's not an alcohol thing....two different brothers brought out there own "home made" vino instead, which taste like a mixture of fruit punch and vineger!
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1) ask guy if they drink or not?
2) If he says he does, then ask him if he would mind if we drink the wine you brought.
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REM show last night... my critique
by dawg inin art, there can be no wrong opinions, we like what we like and have to offer no explanation for what we like and/or do not like.
that said... my take on last night's rem concert at lakewood amphitheater.
ok, so i'm an athenian, that means i'm supposed to love all things athens, georgia is about; but i've never been a big rem fan... in fact, when i was offered front row tickets given by the band themselves, i really didn't want to go.
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New York, the tickets were free, thank God!
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REM show last night... my critique
by dawg inin art, there can be no wrong opinions, we like what we like and have to offer no explanation for what we like and/or do not like.
that said... my take on last night's rem concert at lakewood amphitheater.
ok, so i'm an athenian, that means i'm supposed to love all things athens, georgia is about; but i've never been a big rem fan... in fact, when i was offered front row tickets given by the band themselves, i really didn't want to go.
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In art, there can be no wrong opinions, we like what we like and have to offer no explanation for what we like and/or do not like.
That said... my take on Last night's REM concert at Lakewood Amphitheater.
OK, so I'm an Athenian, that means I'm supposed to love all things Athens, Georgia is about; But I've never been a big REM fan... in fact, when I was offered front row tickets given by the band themselves, I really didn't want to go.
The show.... I've never heard in my life a voice more annoying than Micheal Stipe's... he's one of the worst lyricists ever. I've had a drink with him, twice... he's a nice enough man and all that, but I'm really not a fan.
Peter Buck is the most mediocre guitar player ever to play in a famous band, he sucks so bad they hire another guitar player to cover his crap...
Micheal Mills is the biggest talent in the band, he backs up all songs with vocals, plays piano, and plays bass... he's also a damn nice guy.
Basically, the show was 2.5 hours of Micheal Stipe's wining voice singing songs I've never heard, with a few songs like "Losing my Religion" tossed in here and there that kept me from just wanting to leave.
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At 3:00 am, I went down to the docks, got naked and posed for photos...
by funkyderek inthere were another 2,700 volunterers taking part in an art installation by renowned nude photographer spencer tunick.
not ideal weather for it, i have to say.
it may be midsummer's day, but standing bollock naked, up to my ankles in sea water in the driving rain it certainly didn't feel like it!
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Is that Nessie in the water, or are you happy to see me? Oh! Nessie is in Scotland.
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Yet one more life ruined by a cult/Christianity
by dawg inin the never ending story of lives ruined by religion/cults, we find yet another life taken by the actions of those who refuse to think... including themselves.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/crime/06/19/faith.healer.deaths.ap/index.html .
the fact that many on this site refuse to see reality, that defending any cause, and i mean any cause without reason always leads to weak minded ones committing acts like this.
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Daniel-P says it all....
"It seems to me that religion more often than not uses fear to influence people to be good. As in, "love your neighbor or else you won't get into the Kingdom of Heaven" or something like that. However, there are so many other reasons to be, and do, good. Most of these reasons are sociological--things that can be learned through education and experience. Things that impell people to be good because they want to love themselves and be happy. This is, in my opinion, the first thing to accomplish, and the only route that ensures one can be good for others. in other words... (I know I'm rambling here), religion to me seems more like a 12-step club for the downtrodden, sort of like a socialization scheme to rehabilitate the formerly anti-social and self-hating. Forgive me if anything I say offends, just some random thoughts". -
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Yet one more life ruined by a cult/Christianity
by dawg inin the never ending story of lives ruined by religion/cults, we find yet another life taken by the actions of those who refuse to think... including themselves.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/crime/06/19/faith.healer.deaths.ap/index.html .
the fact that many on this site refuse to see reality, that defending any cause, and i mean any cause without reason always leads to weak minded ones committing acts like this.
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Sure, that would be logical (to partition the government)...
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Yet one more life ruined by a cult/Christianity
by dawg inin the never ending story of lives ruined by religion/cults, we find yet another life taken by the actions of those who refuse to think... including themselves.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/crime/06/19/faith.healer.deaths.ap/index.html .
the fact that many on this site refuse to see reality, that defending any cause, and i mean any cause without reason always leads to weak minded ones committing acts like this.
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In the never ending story of lives ruined by religion/cults, we find yet another life taken by the actions of those who refuse to think... including themselves.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/19/faith.healer.deaths.ap/index.html
The fact that many on this site refuse to see reality, that defending any cause, and I mean any cause without reason always leads to weak minded ones committing acts like this. The rule of Christianity is to refuse reason and "just believe"; if you think not, then ask a Christian to defend their reasons for their beliefs... logic will NOT apply, believe me.
That's why you get many on this site who still believe in talking snakes and two of a kind on a boat,that actually think their defense of this nonsense makes sense, yet still don't understand, that even though they may not commit acts as vile as this, they are still propagating a myth that requires the believers to suspend logic, and then it's a slippery slope for believers, many won't know when to quit and lives will be ruined. I've seen this movie time and again, but you believers want to act like this type of actions (the suspension of logic) isn't bad, wrong, or dangerous to society.
Christianity, and all religions/philosophies that require the suspension of logic must be defeated, we must use logic to end it. While some Christians are able to keep their "faith" under control, many do not... and it's the suspension of logic that Christianity requires that makes it a problem...
Religions, all of them, require the nonsense called "faith", and I've not seen one religion that has facts backing it up, that's why we see buildings being blown up, and children dieing like this poor kid.
And when asked to offer sustained proof for their beliefs, the one asking is always attacked and called names, when in reality, we are asking relevant questions.
If a believer wants to believe whatever they want, no skin off my back; but you that believe never keep it quiet and to yourselves where it'd do little if any harm... no, you want to effect public policy with this nonsense.
So, for the record, I'll never stop attacking this crap. It bothers me not what names I'm called... this is the enemy, and those of us that use logic must speak out and end this nonsense. How many lives must be ruined before you guys get this?
And don't bother to tell me how much good it does... if you can't commit acts that are good without religion, then you have a problem, not us that do good acts without the carrot stick of heaven, or the judgment of God being waved in front of our noses. Good acts are logical and benefit society at large.