Good to have you mandate...
This happened 18/19 years ago... best I can recall
I've always been an avid newspaper reader... I read where (I think it was Swaggart) was going to have to pay taxes on all items he sold in his ministry if he, or his followers asked a certain price for it. When I read it I thought, that'll effect the JW's...
Special talk is announced a week or two later... we all waited in anticipation....
Announcement: "the end is so near, we need to save as many souls as possible.. no longer ask a certain price for the publications, ask for donation"... The same thing the newspaper said weeks earlies for all non-profit (churches) to not pay taxes.
I got in the car that night, told my dad that announcement was a complete lie; dad said that if I repeated that again I'd be thrown out of the house. Week or two later, they announce from the platform the real reason for the change.., they told the truth this time.
Started, from that time forward to read so called 'apostate" literature, then I found out the real truth... 18 years since I've been associated with the Wt... best 18 years of my life.
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what was the one sound bite or comment that helped you see the light?
by siy inthis was a few years ago now, i was on the work one day with an elders elder.. you now the type!.
& he said this to me me (now i would love to know if you heard this one if its from a wt mag).
"how you are viewed by others (& so treated) is a reflection of how god views you".
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BACKFIRE!!!
by heybaby inwow, my husband it totally freaking out on me.
i presented an ample amount of information that i found about birthdays (this happened to be the topic under discussion).
mind you, i presented info from only the wt and awake.
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The one thing I understand the least about a dub... why they defend the actions of men they've never met, and attack a family member whom they claim to love? WTF? A person they know in the flesh, who they may have known all their lives is attacked while some men they can't even name are defended.
I really don't understand this... I mean the man sleeps with you, you're his wife... and defends men to whom which he probably can't name more than one or two of...?????????,
How can someone ignore facts being presented, defend those whom he doesn't know, and then get pissed at the lady he has sex with? I just don't get that shi% -
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Letter regarding the WTS from the UN
by heybaby inok, so i keep reading on here how the wts was associated with the un.
i had never heard anything about this.
i guess i shouldn't be surprised, since the un is the "beast" and i know the wts would never let the congregations know they were in bed with them.
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WT reply to everything.... "nothing to see here, move along... We are God's mouthpiece, God's channel" and idiots still fall for this crap, get pissed that you'd dare point out these errors about the Wt org... man!
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Convicted molester sentenced to 45 years to life(JW)
by purplesofa insorry if this has already been posted.. purps.
http://www.pe.com/localnews/rivcounty/stories/pe_news_local_n_witness28.471157c.html.
by tammy j. mccoy.
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These Elders are just as disgusting as the molester... sick.. protecting Jehovah's Organization, I guess.
I hope they all rot in hell. Good that the courts see the difference between the confessions of one man to one clergy, and three Elders in a JC, who send their finding to the home office. There is no confidentiality in meetings such as these.
Now we can stand back and watch as thousands more come forward ans sue these bastards... I live for this $hi... -
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Solace 1998, what gives?
by dawg ini keep on hearing you repeat that people here are "hate driven"... i don't agree... when a person realizes that they've been duped by men, and that's all the gb and the fads are, just men.... it hurts.
but i don't see very many people here as hate driven.
then you started a post that accused us of being hate filled, you gave no examples that i could see, but you later stated that you were going to research the truth on your own... have you done that in the last two days, because i'm pretty sure your post was two days ago?
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Thanks Paul... I didn't realize that another thread went on so long on this same subject, haven't been on here for days... Sorry guys.
I like this blasty person, they say..."wow, what a special thread heh.
Solace, you seem like the type of person that needs to be "handled with care". It's ok to be that way, but on the internet, people tend to be abrasive, and letting yourself get upset about it, or lashing out because someone on the internet was less then nice to you....well it's a never ending battle.
My best advice to you, is avoid cat and mouse games like this thread. Your basically saying the same thing to the people in this thread, that they are saying to you. It's really a never ending argument, because technically everyone, including you, is right, from a certain viewpoint.
I really don't think anyone could do anything on this board to make you happy in your current emotionally distraught state. I think a full thread of "I'm sorry solace" wouldn't make you happy".
I think this subject has been covered... but I keep on seeing how solace say how hate filled we all are... didn't know another thread went on for 108 posts... sorry -
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post - df experience
by Solace1998 init was a shock to many when i was df'ed -- .
but i found afterwards, many did not want to obey the arrangement... one sister cornered me at a local supermarket, and made sure everything was okay with me, and if i ever needed someone to talk to, that she and her hubby were available... .
there is more to this, but another sister i worked with was quite ardent about talking to me about much more than just work .
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That sounds "hate filled" to me solace... You don't agree?
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Solace 1998, what gives?
by dawg ini keep on hearing you repeat that people here are "hate driven"... i don't agree... when a person realizes that they've been duped by men, and that's all the gb and the fads are, just men.... it hurts.
but i don't see very many people here as hate driven.
then you started a post that accused us of being hate filled, you gave no examples that i could see, but you later stated that you were going to research the truth on your own... have you done that in the last two days, because i'm pretty sure your post was two days ago?
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I keep on hearing you repeat that people here are "hate driven"... I don't agree... when a person realizes that they've been duped by men, and that's all the GB and the FADS are, just men.... it hurts. But I don't see very many people here as hate driven.
Then you started a post that accused us of being hate filled, you gave no examples that I could see, but you later stated that you were going to research the truth on your own... have you done that in the last two days, because I'm pretty sure your post was two days ago? I find it hard to believe that you've researched all you need to research in such a short time.
Do you think it's possible that you are hearing the real truth for the first time and you're finding it "hate filled" because it's not what you want to hear. Not to mention, you came on this site guns blazing and folks fired back... do you consider that hate filled.
I wish you the best in your journey, but I'll lay a bet you'll be just as fired up as the rest of us when you finally take the time, research this cult on you on, find out the truth, lose your family, and then see how happy you are.. but I still don't think you'll be hate filled, you'll be pissed like the rest of us, but hate? No, I don't think so. -
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So now I'm disgusting? What?
by heybaby inanother experience that i wanted to share: ok, this happened to me a few years ago.
i was between jobs, and i decided to use that time to auxiliary pioneer.
i had never been able to do it before and i was very excited.
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Don't get mad, get even... Elder A, came up to me and told me that I couldn't go out in service because of my hairdo; it was the mid 80's and I had it cut in a crazy way, but it had long since grown out and was just plain short.. it was cut like Vanilla Ice, but it had grown out months previous. He told me I had a rebellious spirit and didn't act like JW; at the time I was pure as the driven snow just wanted a different hairdo.
So, years go by... I see as$hole in the grocery store, he's running from me... I go over to him and say quite loudly, "this man won't speak to me, won't even speak to me because I'm no longer a JW... does that sound like the Jesus he's supposed to be worshiping"? Or something to that effect... hge ran from the store like a demon had grabbed him...LOL! -
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is there a true jehovah God
by mattbetrayed incan anybody help me i was brouhgt up a jw i pioneered went to bethel was a ms gave public talks but left because i knew they are false in every way god is good he loves us crhist saved us but these people want to see all killed except the "govering body " and the 1st and 2nd class witnessses the heaven bound and the earth bound i have stayed away from god and other faiths for yrs as felt should not but i have read some stuff about russell and rutherford and this has made me along with what i have found out about 1975 see that i need help from those who know what it is like being brouhgt up in this evil lie i hope that god will direct someone to help me god bless
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Blasty says... "Yeah, the first step is to question anything anyone tells you, even the people on this board, and use those questions to find the answers that make sense to you"..
Damn good advice if you ask me...
So that said, I remembered reading where George Washington always listened to everyone, and then made decisions... he still made mistakes, but by listening to everyone HE LESSENED HIS CHANCES to make a mistake.
You'll lessen your chances if you research everything you can about God, but you'll not ever have a conclusive answer, and that's OK, some things we simply don't know. If you find something you believe then good, but still don't close your mind to other possibilities.
I've made several posts where I've stated that making dogmatic claims as to God's existence makes the poster look stupid, I don't care if they believe or disbelieve in God, but to be dogmatic over something you can't, and I mean freaking can't prove, that makes the person making that statement look like an idiot. I'm sorry but it does.
I got blasted for those comments, but I don't know why... I didn't call someone an idiot, just said that making comments like that were stupid... and they are!
It's Ok to share a theory, but to be dogmatic about such things..., that's stupid. So, to answer you're question... I'd say that the God of the OT Bible is conclusively an ass, and I want no dealings with him... I'd say the God of the NT is completely different and if they're the same God, then God changed his mind along the way. My beliefs, which can't be proven, it that neither one is real and/or exists, or has ever existed. But that is just an opinion. -
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~ Just found out that my dad has died ~
by FlyingHighNow inmy jw brother in law is one the phone with me right now.
when it rains it pours when it comes to sorrow.
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I'm truly sorry to hear that... please accept my condolences