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  Is the WTBTS racist?

  by esther in

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  in australia there are separate congregations for aboriginal witnesses.

  the official line is that the nonwitness aboriginals are more responsive to other aboriginals.

  that may be so, but that doesn't mean that they should be kept separate for meetings.

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  Freddi:

  I do believe Bugeye was being a tad sarcastic/satirical here.

  He applied the same reasoning used to justify separation of Aboriginals to the situation of apartheid, thus showing that reasoning to be lacking.

  Sorry Prisca, but I think esther has a point here. For me, a relevant question would be "if an aboriginal did not wish to be in a separated congregation, could they freely join a white congregation." I suspect not.

  Certain individuals in an organisation being racist does not make the entire organisation racist. But here the organisation is using race as a tool for it's own agenda. That's wrong.

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  To: Orbison

  by expatbrit in

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  orbison:.

  i replied to your e-mail using the forward function.

  however it didn't work.. will try again tomorrow.

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  Orbison:

  I replied to your e-mail using the forward function. However it didn't work.

  Will try again tomorrow. Suggest finding new ISP.

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  Where do you go to die?

  by wasasister in

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  for the majority of humans, certain events are surrounded by tradition and ritual.

  marriage, the birth of children, entrance into adulthood, and death are all life-events which will be marked by most with a form of religious ceremony.

  for the few who have left off affiliation with a religious organization, these events are marked differently - more by tradition than by mystic ritual.

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  Slip:

  I think that being laid out on a pyre then set adrift lit on fire would be one of the coolest ways to be sent to the next part of my journey.

  I recommend that dying precedes this process, however.

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  IT'S A BIRD... IT'S A PLANE....NO! IT'S.......

  by TR in

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  ....superrrrr elderrrrr!.

  heeeere i am to save the daaaaayyyyyyyy!!!!

  and maybeee ruin a few liiiiives!.

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  TR:

  I trust we can look forward to future adventures of Super-Elder?

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  I Learned Something New!!!

  by NikL in

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  well i did indeed learn something new from the public talk last sunday.

  while drifting in and out of consciousness, hoping for time to quickly pass, i picked up on a very important point.

  the words being spoken from the monotone bore machine at the podium had lulled me into a lethargic semi comatose state when all of a sudden one sentence cut through the fog like a hot knife cuts through butter.. he said "the moon is our closest planet".

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  NikL:

  Please ask the elder who gave this talk the following question, which perplexed me my entire JW life. New light may have provided the answer.

  "Why didn't Jehovah create the sun to shine at night, when the light would come in useful?"

  Thanks

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  Where do you go to die?

  by wasasister in

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  for the majority of humans, certain events are surrounded by tradition and ritual.

  marriage, the birth of children, entrance into adulthood, and death are all life-events which will be marked by most with a form of religious ceremony.

  for the few who have left off affiliation with a religious organization, these events are marked differently - more by tradition than by mystic ritual.

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  Tina-babes:

  Please could you give a few more details about what is involved in a humanist funeral. It might be something I would be interested in having (though to quote Augustine "but not yet!")

  As for me, I wish no religious aspect to my arrangements. Like most Europeans, I prefer cremation. I wish the simplest prcedure possible, to place the least financial or organisational burden upon my loved ones.

  My one concession to sentimentality is that I would like my ashes to be returned to the area I grew up in, so that I can become a part of the gentle and beautiful countryside that I love so much.

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  Yeah Yeah I'm back

  by joelbear in

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  i couldn't stay away.

  i love you guys.. abaddon's and ldh's recent posts hit close enough to home that i decided to post again.. i think the selected memory and split personalities go hand in hand.. the selected memory helps keep the cult personality happy and gleaming no matter what damage the suppression does to the real human or the real human's family and friends.. a couple of years ago i was talking about my childhood with my parents and they both acted stunned when i said i was still angry with them because they didn't want me to go to college (i gave up several scholarship offers, etc.

  to become a pioneer and eventually go to bethel).

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  Joel: looking forward to reading more of your great stuff!

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  troubled [in need of answers]

  by zev in

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  today, i had a long, long talk with my employer.

  this person is some one who can seperate work and personal things, so after feeling like i needed to talk to someone, and soon, before i crack up, i went to her and dropped the bomb.

  she is not a witness, and because i cannot talk to a witness about what i have learned, for fear of the df'ing thingy, i feel safe in talking to her.

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  Zev:

  Feel for ya, buddy.

  Before ceasing to attend meetings I had to give long and careful thought to how this would affect my marriage. How would the JW wife react? What might the elders do to encourage her to leave me (getting her out of the apostate zone)?

  The choice was between continuing to attend: faking it; or telling her how I really felt.

  I took the latter course, for two main reasons.

  1) I had become very irritable and vinegary because of the internal stress of smothering my negative emotions at meetings, in field service etc. In short, I was becoming a right SOB to live with, and this in itself obviously strains the relationship. My conclusion was that there was greater danger in letting this continue than biting the WT bullet.

  2) I respect my wife immensely. This requires honesty. How could I deceive her on something as important as religion. A successful marriage demands honesty.

  And so I told her that I no longer believe in the WT, that it's a cult and that I would not be back.

  You know what? She didn't tell anyone else! Her attitude is "it's your decision, and you must deal with the consequences (talking to the elders / other family members etc.)".

  And so my making the decision and telling her has not really affected things. What it has demonstrated to me is that we both married a "person", not just a WT clone. Yes, there are awkward moments, and some sadness when she goes to conventions etc. without me, but our marriage is not dependent upon the WT for it's success.

  I'm sorry that your marriage is so strained. It sounds rather cavalier to say this, but surely a resolution whichever way is better than continuing tension and insecurity, for both of you?

  You must make your own decision. Whatever you decide, I hope for the best for both of you.

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  Just a female thing?

  by anglise in

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  since drifting from the org over the last year or so i have been slowly updating my clothes.

  i thought maybe it was just me who had been dressing like a middle aged matron since i was 23 but whilst talking to a young xsister recently i learnt that she too has thrown out most of the clothes she used to wear whilst a dub.. has anyone else found themselves doing this, and is it just a female thing?

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  I got Union Jack underwear.

  No, really.

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  Where do you go to die?

  by wasasister in

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  for the majority of humans, certain events are surrounded by tradition and ritual.

  marriage, the birth of children, entrance into adulthood, and death are all life-events which will be marked by most with a form of religious ceremony.

  for the few who have left off affiliation with a religious organization, these events are marked differently - more by tradition than by mystic ritual.

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  Francoise:

  Kindly enroll me in the G.B. Shaw program.

  Thank you.

  Expatbrit