blah, blah blah.
Thank you, warlock.
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i believe in god, but i also realize he may not exist.. if you don't believe in god, i really don't care, i'm just curious.. i don't have this need to start threads like "why you must believe in god", or other such nonsense, but some of you still have this "control" issue that you thought you left in the org.
it seems like you must still try to control what others think.
"think like me, or you are an idiot.
blah, blah blah.
Thank you, warlock.
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i believe in god, but i also realize he may not exist.. if you don't believe in god, i really don't care, i'm just curious.. i don't have this need to start threads like "why you must believe in god", or other such nonsense, but some of you still have this "control" issue that you thought you left in the org.
it seems like you must still try to control what others think.
"think like me, or you are an idiot.
You really do care, warlock. That's what makes you so special.
I have not read this thread and honestly for the most part I stay away from the I am right, NO, I am right threads.
I have no degree and I have not spent a lot of time with my nose in books either. Until recently I believed there was a god that wanted me dead. I never prayed to him because I thought it was pointless. No regrets, so I lived my life there was no tomorrow. All of a sudden my "faith" was shattered. Now, I'm 47 years old and realize, HOLY CRAP, there is a tomorrow.
Just because I lost faith in one god does not mean that I have to find another one. I am free from god for now. The point is, I don't care.
When I go to Sunday Dinner at my brother's home, before dinner we all join hands and they say like three prayers. Thier god is catholic. Anyway, I don't care. Respectfully, I participate with a couple of amens. What's the big deal? I don't care.
I am at the point now where I know what I don't believe. The journey is dicovering what I do believe.
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my best friend showed up where i work to see what's going on with me.
i haven't called her since she told an elder at my hall that i was falling out of the truth, little does she know i've fallen and i don't want to get up.. i told her i had now done my research and i absolutely don't believe it.
she said she didn't want to hear my apostate stuff.
I have so much respect for you A&W, and I know you are going to do really well with them. Your motivation is pure and I only hope you are not disappointed. imo, I think it would be great if more faithful JWs faced up to the organization rather than did a fade. It might just speed up the exodus from the cult.
I don't pretend to find myself in this particular situation but, from the outside looking in it seems fading prolongs the pain and thus the inevitable. It sucks. It will still suck in a year from now unless you move away from it. Too bad in many situations "it" are life long friends and, worse familiy members.
I admire your strength and honesty. It is commendable.
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ileft "the truth" 16yrs ago and still cant move on in some areas of my life, i have no family now as they stopped talking to me and have never relented.this has left me with serious problems with needing aproval from people in my life.i have never stopped trying to win my fathers aproval and no i,l never have it unless i go back(which would never happen)jus wondered if any1 else has similar hangups, n if you do, how do i deal with it n move on.
Welcome, xnmad! Many here can relate. Stick around, read and post. This is a great place to get needed support.
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i hope to see you all again one day...actually that might be later on tonight .
see you all later, going to go see if megans alright, she is in bed and the baby is giving her 'pains'...midwife thinks slow labour is possible, not sure yet - but i think these women put it on anyway, dont you lads?
sorry about this i wanted attention..
lol @ WAC!
Karl, I was like WTF! He can't leave now. We have been waiting for pics of baby Noah! I hope that meagan has a quick delivery.
See ya later, attention whore!
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yes kids, im 40 years old, and scared to death!
i signed up for my classes for medical transcription, to find out i have to take the accuplacer test, just to see if im smart enough to be there!
come on, i havent been in school for 22 years, and im suppose to remember algebra?
That's great news. Good luck!
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but she didn't reciprocate.
she held me tight and kissed me softly.
her body language says that she loves me and she's told me she cares for me very much, but she didn't say those magic words.
Go camping and have fun. Don't dwell on the fact that she didn't say it back. And don't feel dumb about having told her the way you feel. She wants to be with you and that's all that matters for now, eh?
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she was beautiful.
her name was aliyah.
she would have been 5 mos tomorrow.
I am so very sorry for your loss.
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well, tomorrow's the big 3-0 since elvis checked out.
where were you when you heard the news?
we were getting ready for the meeting and heard it on the news.
littlerockguy those are some awesome pictures.
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i started a thread for this great guy but without his name in the subject.
this is a dear friend that sees the light.
i was dunked in 1972 --- even did a stint as a regular pioneer --- sold the damn tires and wheels off the mobile home to buy gas to preach!.
Welcome Nkb! I loved your 1st post! Sometimes it can be a little like this around here... But, you get used to it.
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