Dear punkofnice
JWs are like the “foolish virgins” and Brahma Kumaris are the “wise virgins.” (Mathew 25:1-13) This is my impartial estimation after being familiar with both the organizations.
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What death teaches!
by iconoclastic indeath teaches that nothing belongs to us.
no other teachings have been conveyed so clearly, powerfully, and globally.
yet this is the one that is not taken seriously by people in general.
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What death teaches!
by iconoclastic indeath teaches that nothing belongs to us.
no other teachings have been conveyed so clearly, powerfully, and globally.
yet this is the one that is not taken seriously by people in general.
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Dear Bonsai
Sorry for having kept you waiting. I was busy, and saw your question only now.
You ask who BKs are, I will answer. BKs is the short form of Brahma Kumaris, which means virgin daughters of Brahma which means one with a great mind (treating everyone as brothers and sisters). In the last days, God chooses a person who qualifies to be called Brahma and appoints him as God’s agency to bring a Golden Age on earth. People who manifests Brahma’s qualities are called Brahma Kumaris (females) and Brahma Kumars (males). I am not a Brahma Kumar in the sense that organization describes it, because I am married and has a child. But I like this organization and its elevated ideals which may seem impossible to outsiders but are really being practiced by this group of people with much ease. The best thing I like in them is their celibacy. People who do not like this aspect of their teaching engage in propagating all sorts of lies about this group. The organisation is managed by women who are virgins.
In the world we do not find the real love. The days of wine and roses soon devolve into days of whine and neuroses! Relationships are breaking down at an alarming rate. The `love' people in general declare is actually selfishness. People only love themselves. The child or spouse caters to you so you say you love them. When they no longer cater to your demands, love ceases.
But among this group, you can see the real love.
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What death teaches!
by iconoclastic indeath teaches that nothing belongs to us.
no other teachings have been conveyed so clearly, powerfully, and globally.
yet this is the one that is not taken seriously by people in general.
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Dear Cofty,
When I wrote God’s kingdom is within us (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/475330004/elusive-happiness-teaches-hidden-truth), there also you brought BK connection. However, the material you have posted here shows that BK teaching is that it is a real kingdom that is going to come here on earth—thus contradicts your own understanding of BK teaching.
When I wrote “DEATH TEACHES THAT NOTHING BELONGS TO US” which is a universal truth, why do you relate this with only one organization in the world?
And also the conclusion ("http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/475330004/elusive-happiness-teaches-hidden-truth"), there also you brought BK connection. However, the material you have posted here shows that BK teaches as a real kingdom that is going to come here—thus contradicts your own understanding of BK teaching.
When I wrote “DEATH TEACHES THAT NOTHING BELONGS TO US” which is a universal truth, why do you relate this with only one organization in the world?
And also the conclusion (we have to be far-sighted) has nothing to do with recruitment to any cult.
Your comments show no connection with what I deal with in my posting.
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Would Jesus have been disfellowshipped by the "Elders" of his day . . . . . .
by Dunedain ini bet jesus would have been df'd by the "elders" in his day.
lets think about it, jesus hung out with "worldly" people.
his closest friends were known prostitutes, money collectors, men of "prominence" in the world of that day, non "beleivers" of the "faith" like samaritans, and many others that todays "elders" would have deemed "unworthy".. jesus spoke against the "organization" and "elders" of his day.
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He will simply repeat what he did in Mathew 23 which will definitely attract d/f from the faithful and discreet class. -
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What death teaches!
by iconoclastic indeath teaches that nothing belongs to us.
no other teachings have been conveyed so clearly, powerfully, and globally.
yet this is the one that is not taken seriously by people in general.
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Death teaches that nothing belongs to us. No other teachings have been conveyed so clearly, powerfully, and globally. Yet this is the one that is not taken seriously by people in general. This shows people will carry on the way they have been doing. God will not appoint ‘a faithful and discreet’ slave class for spiritual feeding. People have to be far-sighted—have to act taking into consideration the pros and cons of their action, and this is not difficult as an ocean of experience (of others/own) exists.
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If Jehovah's Witnesses go some more in the same direction
by iconoclastic injws made a diligent study on teachings that have pagan origin and found christendom as being mostly built on pagan teachings, hence keep distance from them all.
so far so good.
now, if jws continue in the same direction, they will find virtually everything in the bible as borrowed from pagansstarting from six-staged creation account, and devil (ahriman) making the first man and woman fall (which is from zoroastrianism) to the messiah restoring what has been lost (which is found in many mythologies).
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Good observation.
To show the paradox and contrast, I used the word “diligent study”, because the same zeal is not shown to do the same with the Bible.
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If Jehovah's Witnesses go some more in the same direction
by iconoclastic injws made a diligent study on teachings that have pagan origin and found christendom as being mostly built on pagan teachings, hence keep distance from them all.
so far so good.
now, if jws continue in the same direction, they will find virtually everything in the bible as borrowed from pagansstarting from six-staged creation account, and devil (ahriman) making the first man and woman fall (which is from zoroastrianism) to the messiah restoring what has been lost (which is found in many mythologies).
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punkofnice
That's a realistic comment and summery you put it better than I could.
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If Jehovah's Witnesses go some more in the same direction
by iconoclastic injws made a diligent study on teachings that have pagan origin and found christendom as being mostly built on pagan teachings, hence keep distance from them all.
so far so good.
now, if jws continue in the same direction, they will find virtually everything in the bible as borrowed from pagansstarting from six-staged creation account, and devil (ahriman) making the first man and woman fall (which is from zoroastrianism) to the messiah restoring what has been lost (which is found in many mythologies).
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JWs made a diligent study on teachings that have pagan origin and found Christendom as being mostly built on pagan teachings, hence keep distance from them all. So far so good.
Now, if JWs continue in the same direction, they will find virtually everything in the Bible as borrowed from pagans—starting from six-staged creation account, and devil (Ahriman) making the first man and woman fall (which is from Zoroastrianism) to the Messiah restoring what has been lost (which is found in many mythologies).
This explains why Christianity—especially JWs—did not make much headway in the most populous country (India) with 1.7 billion people. [JWs have only a few thousand members in India where as in a small country like Japan they have tens of thousands] Jesus has many similarities with what is taught in the East. Jesus’ birth is attributed to the power of God (so is Krishna’s birth); there was a bright star appearing in the night sky during the night Jesus was born (during Krishna’s birth, the bright star Rohini was high in the sky). King Herod ordered the killing of all male children in his Kingdom to eliminate Christ (King Kamsa ordered the killing of all the infants in an attempt to kill Krishna). A great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God which was followed by the praising of shepherds (there were many demigods who came and danced and sang about the glories of Krishna when He was ready to appear in this world). Birth was without pomp and show—Jesus in a cave-like manger (Krishna in a cave-like dungeon). Some wise men from the East presented Jesus with frankincense and myrrh (baby Krishna was presented with gifts that included sandalwood and perfumes). Thus the list of similarities goes on and on till their death with Jesus’s chest being pierced with a spear (Krishna’s foot was pierced with an arrow). Jesus’ second coming is spoken as to replace the wicked world with a righteous one (Krishna’s next incarnation as Kalki is spoken as to do the same). Jesus “descended from Yudah” (Hebrew 7:14), and Krishna is from Yadava. Thus similarity exists virtually in everything—even their names are very similar—Christ and K/Chrishtna. Jesus refers to himself as “Amen” (Revelation 3:14) which is actually the slanted form of “Aum” in the East. Even the word “Satan” (which stands in opposition to what Christ stands for) which is the personification of wastefulness or vices is derived from the Sanskrit term Sat-na, which means non-truth or vices (which give a temporary pleasure in the beginning and pain in the end) as personified by persons like Ravan.
No wonder T. W. Doane wrote in his book, Bible Myths and Their Parallels in Other Religions: “The mythological portion of the history of Jesus of Nazareth, contained in the books forming the Canon of the New Testament, is nothing more or less than a copy of the mythological histories of the Hindu Savior Crishna, and the Buddhist Savior Buddha, with a mixture of mythology borrowed from the Persians and other nations.”
Hence the question: What if JWs go some more in the same direction of shunning everything that is of pagan origin?
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Science also accurately foretells (and Bible prophecy neutralized)
by iconoclastic inin 1987 herbert benson, m.d., professor of medicine at harvard medical school foretold: a day will come, through meditation you can set the stage for important mind-and habit-altering brain change.
(your maximum mind, random house, new york) he gave the reasons: over the years you develop circuits and channels of thought in your brain.
these are physical pathways which control the way you think, the way you act, and often the way you feel.
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Dear Cofty,
What you say is true of any organization.
Some of the UN officials have been caught for activities not becoming of UN spirit. So what? Should we make a call to people to view UN with disgust and call everything UN does a shit?
A soldier may defect or turn a traitor. Does that mean the whole defense personnel are to be shunned?
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Pope praises the Wild Beast (UN)
by Quarterback inthe pope stated at his un address that, "if it wasn't for the un's work on the world's conflicts, the world would be alot worse".
i just wonder how that statement will be taken in jw land.
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DATA-DOG
That is an interesting point you brought out. UN is definitely part of the "Superior Authorities" God has set up, hence cannot interpreted as the way JW does. That means Pope got it right, and JW is as usual, has to go to the other extreme.
This Pope is different. He also said something no catholic would think appropriate: "In the history, some of the worst things have been committed by religion, and some of the best things have been committed by those who did not believe in God." Thus he dismissed the idea that God should be a factor in our lives for things to be better, and also the concept of exclusivism which the Church introduced, later accepted by JWs.
I too agree with Pope that many people are good without God being a factor in their lives.