Only a crazy person would talk to someone that wouldn't answer them...even if it is themself.
Eyebrow2
JoinedPosts by Eyebrow2
-
34
Do you talk to yourself?
by rassillon indo you do it with an inner monolog?
do you do it out loud?
---- when i am stressed or am drinking.
-
-
-
87
YOUR LAST MEETING.........................
by vitty in........................at my last meeting, the elder was talking about 1975 and said "it never happened, it is appostates using a time when (some) brothers took the info in the wt wrong"...................i just blinked and finally woke up.. i had been on this site lurking for a couple of weeks, and realized thing werent right, but to have some creep say on the platform " it didnt happen"............when this ruined my and my siblings childhood, just made me snap.
on the way home, i told my hubby "that was the last meeting im going to"................boy was he pleased.. .
so if you didnt get df ......................what happened at your last meeting.?.
-
-
Eyebrow2
My last meeting was also a memorial, in 1998.
Although I had been having some lingering uncomfortable feelings for a while, I wouldn't even recognize them as doubts I don't think. But just as my issue with being a good witness. But at that meeting something just clicked. I realized that it was bunk.I had a long conversation with my best friend in the parking lot after the meeting and told her I was never going back to another meeting. And I never have. The only time I have been back to the KH is when I have given my mom rides to their or picked her up.
I was never disfellowshipped, but I think that was due to the fact that the brothers in my hall didn't see a whole lot of value in a single mother in their hall, unless you were a pioneer of course. I wasn't being an apostate so there was nothing to quiet down. They never even offered to do a sherparding call.
I had a few conversations with my friend after that, and they always ended with her saying "If you want to see me come back to the KH." She literally lived around the corner...about 1000 feet from me. Our house was directly across the street from a street that had several witness families on it. It was nicknamed "witness row".
I am glad now, of their apparant apathy, because it made it easier for me to fade, and for my mother to accept my non Witness husband. (After we were married, we moved back into my same apartment, and had xmas tree in the window, directly facing "witness row" for 4 years. Ahhh...it was a wonderful thing.) It is a shame that my witness "Friends" don't realize that I am not disfellowshipped. I do miss a few of them.
I have been fortunate that my departure has been not as difficult as most here, and I really appreciate others sharing their stories.
-
12
Well, I didn't do it
by serendipity inafter much trepidation i made a big decision.
i'm not going to the dc this year.
it's the first one i've ever missed (i think.
-
-
Eyebrow2
Nina, did you get several sets of witnesses at your door handing out the invitation too?
Like I would travel all the way to Fort Worth for that if I wasn't a witness...snicker....Hello...its hot...its too far away....sheesh....makes me laugh, it does.
-
47
The DaVinci Code -- overreaction or a chance to rumble?
by cruzanheart inhere's an excerpt from a bbc.co.uk article i just read:.
"the holy koran recognises jesus as a prophet.
what the book says is an insult to both christians and muslims," maulana mansoor ali khan, general secretary of the all-india sunni jamiyat-ul-ulema, told the reuters news agency.
-
-
Eyebrow2
Just saw the movie tonight, read the book a while ago.
I was disapointed that they downplayed the church's role in the movie, as opposed the book...but, yeah it is fiction, so I think it is total over reaction by people to get all hot and bothered.
But, then again, if I were still a Christian, I would probably have been at least a little offended that someone DARE say that Christ wasn't more than a man, and what the holy grail was actually supposed to be. (don't want to give away to much for those that didn't read the book or see the movie.)
On another note, if I ever make a movie, I think I want Opie to direct it. He did a good job.
-
9
E. Coli or Flying Spaghetti Monster?
by Elsewhere ini have found that postafarians around the world are without a means to purchase a likeness of the flying spaghetti monster.. as luck would have it, i stumbled upon a possible solution!
e. coli plush toys!
http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/6708/images/1430/.
-
-
Eyebrow2
HAHAAH that is awesome...I had no idea there was an E.Coli plushy
how cuddly!
-
31
Are you a fan of Ayn Rand works and/or Philosophy?
by Eyebrow2 ini have done a lot of reading of rand's fiction, and have been reading a lot about her philosophy over the past several months.
i attend a local study group on her philosophy, and my family and i often attend get togethers that a local objectivist group puts on once or twice a month.. i am interested in talking with other ex witnesses that enjoy her work, and may be interested in discussing her philosophy.
i won't call myself an objectivist just yet, because i still am studying the philosophy.
-
-
Eyebrow2
How many times have we seen that happen? =(
Lathanar is a much nicer guy since he has become an objectivist too... heehee.
-
31
Are you a fan of Ayn Rand works and/or Philosophy?
by Eyebrow2 ini have done a lot of reading of rand's fiction, and have been reading a lot about her philosophy over the past several months.
i attend a local study group on her philosophy, and my family and i often attend get togethers that a local objectivist group puts on once or twice a month.. i am interested in talking with other ex witnesses that enjoy her work, and may be interested in discussing her philosophy.
i won't call myself an objectivist just yet, because i still am studying the philosophy.
-
-
Eyebrow2
Robdar...thanks for your posts...I thought it was awesome you posted that particular site, because my husband and I were just discussing it the other day.
Terry...you actually were one of the people I was hoping would respond to this. I was gonna pm you in a day or two if you hadn't hahah. I don't think she was actually as cold and emotionally repressed as some reports her to be, or as she allowed herself to appear. (I have had that conversation with a few local Objectivists last month it was an interesting one). I don't think, though that it really matters. Because you don't have to be cold to follow the philosophy.
I haven't read adler will check him out.
-
31
Are you a fan of Ayn Rand works and/or Philosophy?
by Eyebrow2 ini have done a lot of reading of rand's fiction, and have been reading a lot about her philosophy over the past several months.
i attend a local study group on her philosophy, and my family and i often attend get togethers that a local objectivist group puts on once or twice a month.. i am interested in talking with other ex witnesses that enjoy her work, and may be interested in discussing her philosophy.
i won't call myself an objectivist just yet, because i still am studying the philosophy.
-
-
Eyebrow2
Yes...exactly.
-
31
Are you a fan of Ayn Rand works and/or Philosophy?
by Eyebrow2 ini have done a lot of reading of rand's fiction, and have been reading a lot about her philosophy over the past several months.
i attend a local study group on her philosophy, and my family and i often attend get togethers that a local objectivist group puts on once or twice a month.. i am interested in talking with other ex witnesses that enjoy her work, and may be interested in discussing her philosophy.
i won't call myself an objectivist just yet, because i still am studying the philosophy.
-
-
Eyebrow2
Robdar...don't think I responded very well in the last posting to what you put up by huemer.
He doesn't understand the value concept in the Objectivism philosophy. That is the problem I found with the piece that he wrote.
-
31
Are you a fan of Ayn Rand works and/or Philosophy?
by Eyebrow2 ini have done a lot of reading of rand's fiction, and have been reading a lot about her philosophy over the past several months.
i attend a local study group on her philosophy, and my family and i often attend get togethers that a local objectivist group puts on once or twice a month.. i am interested in talking with other ex witnesses that enjoy her work, and may be interested in discussing her philosophy.
i won't call myself an objectivist just yet, because i still am studying the philosophy.
-
-
Eyebrow2
Here are a few collections to start with that I think are really good:
The Virtue of Selfishness
Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal
The New Intellectualls (takes exceprts from her fiction)You may be able to find them at your library, or you usually can get them pretty cheap online used.
Also, if you go the the wwww.aynrand.org website, if your register (which is free) you can access some free lectures that are audio. There is a really good one that Gary Hull leads that is an Intro one. You don't need to have read anything by her. It provides a basic outline of what it is about.
Robdar, thanks for your post...my husband and I were reading a similiar paper that I believe Michael Huemer wrote, and my problem with him is that he just doesn't get what Objectivism is actually about.
I too, am a fan of cut and past you can find this at http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=objectivism_intro
The following is a short description of Objectivism given by Ayn Rand in 1962. To learn more about her philosophic system, please read Dr. Leonard Peikoff's short essay: The Philosophy of Objectivism: A Brief Summary. by Ayn Rand
Atlas Shrugged, one of the book salesmen asked me whether I could present the essence of my philosophy while standing on one foot. I did as follows:1. Metaphysics: Objective Reality
2. Epistemology: Reason
3. Ethics: Self-interest
4. Politics: CapitalismIf you want this translated into simple language, it would read: 1. "Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed" or "Wishing won't make it so." 2. "You can't eat your cake and have it, too." 3. "Man is an end in himself." 4. "Give me liberty or give me death."
If you held these concepts with total consistency, as the base of your convictions, you would have a full philosophical system to guide the course of your life. But to hold them with total consistency — to understand, to define, to prove and to apply them — requires volumes of thought. Which is why philosophy cannot be discussed while standing on one foot — nor while standing on two feet on both sides of every fence. This last is the predominant philosophical position today, particularly in the field of politics.
My philosophy, Objectivism, holds that:
- Reality exists as an objective absolute — facts are facts, independent of man's feelings, wishes, hopes or fears.
- Reason (the faculty which identifies and integrates the material provided by man's senses) is man's only means of perceiving reality, his only source of knowledge, his only guide to action, and his basic means of survival.
- Man — every man — is an end in himself, not the means to the ends of others. He must exist for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others nor sacrificing others to himself. The pursuit of his own rational self-interest and of his own happiness is the highest moral purpose of his life.
- The ideal political-economic system is laissez-faire capitalism. It is a system where men deal with one another, not as victims and executioners, nor as masters and slaves, but as traders, by free, voluntary exchange to mutual benefit. It is a system where no man may obtain any values from others by resorting to physical force, and no man may initiate the use of physical force against others. The government acts only as a policeman that protects man's rights; it uses physical force only in retaliation and only against those who initiate its use, such as criminals or foreign invaders. In a system of full capitalism, there should be (but, historically, has not yet been) a complete separation of state and economics, in the same way and for the same reasons as the separation of state and church.
Copyright ã 1962 by Times-Mirror Co.