Posts by flipper

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Why is it ...

by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

i might be a fader, but my question still stands.

why is it that i can marry a perfectly decent "worldly" man - good provider, never married, no children, generous ... yet i'm "marked"; while another "sister" can wait out for a presently "married" brother who admits he loves her, claims his marriage is problematic, claims he's getting a divorce ... and no one bats an eyelid?

do they really believe the stupid "jw tag" is sooooo valuable?

flipper

Yah - Mr flipper faded - always been kind, honest, moral, friendly, all around good guy. Well most of his family shunned our wedding, and he's been hassled and df'd recently because of the fabrications of his ex wife and daughter. The ex wife is known in her cong to have mental problems - if the elders recommended psychotherapy you know it's serious. She has lied about other people for years, made trouble, they had a special needs talk about it just a few years ago. In good standing along with her father - ex drug addict and wife beater (several wive's worth).This guy acted all superior and looked down his nose at us last year at a wedding. The above mentioned daughter never called or went to see her dad for the year that he lived 10 minutes from her. However, 3 or 4 days after Mr flipper called her to tell her we were getting married she and her mom started the whole shunning thing by driving 1 1/2 hours to see Mr. Flippers car parked at my house, draw their conclusions and alert his elderly parents and other family, and elders. What good witness women! Let's see, also in good standing: a skanky degenerate, reinstated, who was very snotty to my stepson at the funeral for someone close to him growing up. The small minded PO from Mr f's old cong who is all gung ho after Mr f. for reasons of pride and revenge, and probably envy. And, man, I've heard so many stories of sexual shenanigans among married jw's - unbelievable. Wow that was quite a rant. Sometimes you just DON'T want to get me going. flipper

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Finally starting to understand faders...

by ex-nj-jw in

i haven't been posting for about 2 weeks, just kinda lurking, reading other posts, but not participating because i started to feel like i had nothing interesting to add, my life experiences, personal issues were just not very interesting to others on the forum, i felt.. i also started reading coc as well as reading old posts and reviewing the links from "old timer" jwd members.

see, i never got deep into this cult, 18 years from birth to end and i was outta there!!

i never pioneered, never had the ms or elder husband, although i dated a ms, he was only 19 early 20's at best (i was only 16) but that didn't last.

flipper

ex-nj-jw, your posts are not boring! Aren't you thankful for your rebellious streak - got you out of the cult. Got me out of the catholic church. I have also come to understand faders. It's almost impossible to leave openly without being cut off from those you love. But from what I've seen here and my husband's recent experience after a 4 year fade, you eventually will get hassled and they will find something, anything, to df you for. Lot of the time, same deal - you get ratted out OR lied about by family members, people who don't like you, or are jealous that you got away and are happy. Sorry about your daughter - let's hope she inherited some of your rebellious nature. another really good thing about this board is you get hope when you see others on here who have someone who finally escaped. flipper

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lurking is sooooooooo good for your health

by mathilde in

hallo everybody,i m new here.. thank you for having me here.. i have been reading (lurking) for a long time.from the very first moment i came here i felt like:.

halleluja i m not alone!!!!!!!!

i have used what i read here - got a "depression" and started to fade-haven t seen the inside of a kh for more than a year and it feels so good.. mathilde.

flipper

Welcome, Mathilde! flipper

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I went to a JW "memorial" (funeral) talk on Saturday

by cruzanheart in

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friends

just when i think that i will never set foot in a kingdom hall again, the father of a dear friend of mine died.

now, this friend and her husband stood firmly by our side during the hubbub surrounding my dad's suicide and the funeral we decided on (no kh, no elders, no half hour infomercial), and she was having problems with her own family, so i decided to go to his funeral talk as support for her.. nothing dramatic happened, really, but it was a good reality check.

jennie, our 13-year-old daughter, went with me and almost fell asleep from boredom and the fact that the elders were too cheap to turn the ac down to a comfortable temperature on a warm texas saturday afternoon.

flipper

Went to a jw funeral for the first time a while back at my stepson's old cong (he left several years ago) - I was shocked at what an infomercial it was. And feel the love - some skanky guy who had been disfellowshipped once was an aquaintance of my stepson from before my stepson left. After a little small talk in which my stepson mentioned he was in college this guy says "Some of us work with our brains and some of us work with our backs - I guess I'm using my brain because I work with my back" Gaaaack! flipper

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First Date Etiquette

by Crumpet in

so i am going on a blind first date this weekend?

i havent done any dating really - well ever.

i just end up with people for years and years by accidents of fate i guess.. what should i and shouldnt i do on a first date?

flipper

Hi, Crumpet! I'm glad your date turned out so nice. I was a little"trollied" myself when I went onto eharmony - my friend was here telling me about it, I'd never done anything online. I had a good old time answering their 10 million questions blatantly honestly, thinking oh, yeah, let's see who goes for this. Hence my most excellent husband. We've been together since the day we met - it can happen. I hadn't dated for years because it's wierd and I was burnt out on it. Good luck! I know you can do it.....flipper

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Since I left...

by RollerDave in

since i left.... so there i was, a disabled single dad bereft of all he had known or believed for 30 years.. i had moved a good 45 minutes away from the area where the events in my introductory post went down, but was now living in an area where i had resided some ten years earlier and still had a few stale connections with the organization.. i was lonely, depressed, pissed off, and really disgusted with the god i had been shown in my years of unfruitful association.. in my mind, he had made me the way i am, which apparently entailed being unable to meet his 'righteous requirements', and was going to kill me for it.

he had endowed all of us with a natural human nature (apart from our fallen sinful nature,) and now expected us to conquer our every natural impulse or desire, even the healthy ones, to survive the big a.. hold off on marriage or kids, no college, no success, no normalcy... the big a'll get ya if ya don't watch out!.

so i railed against him, defied him to just take me, do anything to show he even existed or had any power at all.. i went around saying 'god is an a$$h*le' and the like, but then i realized something that shook my world..... i was just as much a witness outside the organization as i had been inside!.

flipper

Welcome, RollerDave! flipper

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Hi

by Missanna in

hey i just joined here i have finally got up the courage to start doing research for myself since i've left the "truth" just wanted to introduce myself and say hi.

my name is anna and i got out of the org.

almost a year ago.

flipper

Welcome, Anna! Flipper

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reasoning

by BR25 in

i read most of the posts on here and i was just trying to get an understanding on certain topics.

i read some peoples material and why they dont believe in the jw faith.

i understand that some people left the jw faith and some people on here may never have been jws or believed in it, so i understand why you post and give info back and forth, but i have trouble understanding some of the disfellowshipped ones on here.

flipper

BR25, I have never been a JW. I came on here after seeing a LOT of insane behavior by good standing JW's. Hatred, you say? What you see on this board is a drop in the bucket compared to what is regularly practised in that church. Good grief. One of my first observations was that most of the kind, strong and honest people leave. And that an awful lot of "good standing" JW's have this funny habit - the pot is always calling the kettle black. Hint, hint..... flipper

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