Hello folks. I touched on this answering another thread and it made me think. I remember seeing fairly often married couples at times verbally sparring in public at times in the kingdom hall or parking lot. As I mentioned, saw an elder putting down his wife aggresively for disagreeing with him on territory being worked or not. I had an aquaintance who got really mad at his wife in front of others because she was looking at a picture of a brother in tidy whiteys, this picture being passed around to different sisters. He didn't like that she was laughing at it. And this same guy got mad at his wife in front of others for wrecking their car accidentally, hitting a deer. He was more angry about the damage to the car than whether his wife was hurt. I took him aside later and told him this was wrong, to not take it out on his wife like that. He told me to mind my own business. Later he apologized, but it made others feel uncomfortable seeing him and other couples working out their differences in sight of others often. I've always felt, if you have something to work out with your wife, go say or do it in private so no one else gets dragged into it.To me it's showing human dignity to your wife, others who are present, and any kids involved. What do you guys think? Have you witnessed this kind of behavior? How did you handle it, as well as others reactions to it? Thanks for your comments
flipper
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Did You See Married Couples Arguing Loud in Public,Kingdom Hall, Anywhere ?
by flipper inhello folks.
i touched on this answering another thread and it made me think.
i remember seeing fairly often married couples at times verbally sparring in public at times in the kingdom hall or parking lot.
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Is Half The 'Disciple Making Work' A Hoax?
by metatron in17 yearts ago, it took 3,624,773 publishers to generate 263,855 baptisms (1990 yrbk).
however, last year it took 6,491,775 publishers to get 248,327 baptised!
exactly what work were those spare 3 million publishers.
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Metatron- I think it's an indicator that the preaching work is becoming not as effective due to lack of interest. The "alleged increase" is not happening as the org. wants their members to believe. Is it possible that people are being made more aware of the jw cults dangers and are deciding to not join? Hey there's a concept for ya! Anyway, when I initially left in 1998 the first time, I thought the worlwide count was about 6,000,000 witnesses worldwide back then! Not much increase in 9 years do ya think? Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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How Were Intelligent "Sisters" Treated In Your Congregation?
by minimus inas a rule, i believe jehovah's witnesses treat females as sub par to the menfolk.
i knew a lot of women in the hall that were smarter than their mates.
they begrudgingly got respect from most of the elders.
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Scully- Mr. Flipper here. I do remember seeing this same thing you mentioned, sisters being ignored even though they were correct on things, but because of the massive egos of elders or brothers, the sisters opinion would be dissed. I thought it was sickening. I remember seeing an elder and his wife arguing after a meeting for service about which part of a territorry had been worked. The sister was correct, but the elder husband just would have no part of it, he insisted he was right, all the while as we the publishers stood around waiting to be assigned where to go in the territory. I opted to go on return visits and avoid the fiasco. With all the horror going on in the world, does it really matter which damned house has been worked on a street or not? I doubt it
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Life sometimes can throw some curveballs
by Junction-Guy inamanda suggested i post this on here, i talked with her about it this morning.. .
things are getting strange, there is a woman who is a little older than me, who keeps dropping hints that she wants to go to myrtle beach with me.. .
i would feel funny taking her there as that is where we spent our honeymoon together.. .
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Junction Guy- Mr. Flipper here. Mrs. Flipper and I always enjoy your posts. You seem like a real cool, sensitive guy. a lot of times in my life I was gunshy about dating because I had been burned a few times( refer to my thread Story of Mr. & Mrs. Flipper). However I've always been a guy who picks myself up by the bootstraps and tries again. Believe me Junction guy there is a woman out there for you, I guarantee it. I tried a lot of things but the thing that worked for me was e-harmony .com. They give you multiple choice questions you answer honestly, and only match you up with people that answered similarly to yourself, same values, interests, and ethics. Worked for me. Mrs. Flipper is the coolest woman I've been with hands down. I never thought I'd find that right person, but through work and research, not leaving it to chance happenings, I found her finally. Good luck to you, work at it buddy, Peace out, Mr. Flipper of the find the right woman class!
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Should I tell him how I feel or let it go?
by megsmomma inbrief history: my mom shuns me, my step dad is not a jw but thinks pretty much like one and called me apostate when i tried to tell him some things.
my step dad and i have never been close, he was verbally abusive to me growing up.. well, last week he and my mom fly up my ex- and his wife with my daughter (all jw's) to go boating with them and my sisters kids.
i am glad my daughter got to see her cousins....but, i am sure if they talked about me at all it was not positive talk.
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Megsmomma, Mr. Flipper here. I think Worldly Andres advice is good. Just respectfully but firmly have a talk with them and spell it out. The longer I've been away from this cult, the more I'm finding out that honesty is the best policy. It can be done tactfully but firmly. Sounds weird but true. I have been firmer with my family of late, explaining to my aged jw mom that I highly disagree with my judgemental older brother who is an elder but refuses me to come to his home or gilead graduate sister who condemns me to hell. I'm just a fader, not dfed, so I told my mom they should not treat me that way. You will gain this confidence, the longer you've been out P.S. Megsmomma you have a right to be with your kids seeing their grandparents!
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The elders serving whose interests?
by greendawn inthe wts claims that the elders are an arrangement by jehovah to lovingly take care of his flock.
this is a typically misleading statement by the fds using the usual smooth talking and references to a divine connection to deceive the r&f.
neither the elders are jehovah's arrangement nor the jws are jehovah's flock.
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Yes, much agreed Greendawn, the elders most of them have ulterior motives of supporting the organizations view of everything , even if it flies in the face of reason. Maybe a minute few have good motives to help the members, but their efforts are overshadowed by elders who have either their own agenda personally or the orgs.interests as a primary function. The brother or sister sitting in the corner not commenting is not valued very much, I can assure you that
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New grandkid
by animal inwe are expecting the second grandkid next week, on 8-3... planned c-section.
my job is to watch our first one until all is done then take him in to meet his new sister.
he is 1 1/2, and my buddy.. well, i just got a call that my son thinks her water just broke.
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flipper
Congradulations on becoming a grandfather again ! Sure you are very happy and proud! Peace to you, Mr. & Mrs. Flipper
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The Story of Mr. & Mrs. Flipper
by flipper init was requested of someone on the board via pm to tell our story.
i'll try to keep it brief, for me that's hard.
mrs. flipper was raised catholic and got out when she was 12 because the nuns and cathlolic school teachers didn't like her independent thinking mind.
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No , John, no issues here. There is a separate person, my wife who is Mrs. flipper, and me her husband Mr. Flipper. I guess you like to remain incognito with a name like John Doe, I presume? Peace out, Mr. Flipper lol
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The Story of Mr. & Mrs. Flipper
by flipper init was requested of someone on the board via pm to tell our story.
i'll try to keep it brief, for me that's hard.
mrs. flipper was raised catholic and got out when she was 12 because the nuns and cathlolic school teachers didn't like her independent thinking mind.
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Journey On, thanks so much for the kind words of support, it's appreciated. I intend to stay on this board to provide assistance and help to those that want it. So sorry about what happened to your brother. I too told the elders in my appeal letter to them that the decisions they make in people's lives can either affect them or infect them for life. So I told them it's something to seriously consider. They are allowed to have way too much power and control in those peoples lives wanted to make you smile!
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The Story of Mr. & Mrs. Flipper
by flipper init was requested of someone on the board via pm to tell our story.
i'll try to keep it brief, for me that's hard.
mrs. flipper was raised catholic and got out when she was 12 because the nuns and cathlolic school teachers didn't like her independent thinking mind.
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Snowbird, thanks. I could not in good conciense go along with their unfair beliefs any more too. Thanks for the empathy with the daughters, it hurts for sure, but I'm hopeful with showing love and caring that they'll see I'm always there for them even though we have different beliefs. I will always be there, even if the witnesses are not. Peace to you my friend and the rest of you faders