Hello everybody, Mr. Flipper here again. I figured I'd bump the thread up since it's getting a lot of responses and it's something fun for people to do. I'm so busy with work this week won't have time to rank these votes till the end of the week to see who ended up with a lot. So it gives more time to put names out there you guys and gals like
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Music Fans!! Once again I Ask, What's Your Top 10 Favorite Albums?
by flipper inhello gang!
didn't think i'd let you off easy did you?
this one might really make us dig into our personal archives!
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Showing Concern for Posters we Haven't Heard Lately.Do You Know Some?
by flipper inmrs. flipper and i were talking about this today.
since our dear friend core 88 has been feeling downhearted, my wife and i thought who else have we not heard from lately that could use some acknowledgement to let them know we all are thinking about them?
can you folks think of some posters who might be down or need to be helped to see they are needed or cared about when we don't hear from them?
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Hey everybody, Mr. Flipper here. Some had noticed Blueblades had not posted in awhile. Minimus mentioned it. Well he did post today and he's depressed about something but unable to communicate about it. Perhaps we can find the thread or pm him, let him know we care
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Did You See Married Couples Arguing Loud in Public,Kingdom Hall, Anywhere ?
by flipper inhello folks.
i touched on this answering another thread and it made me think.
i remember seeing fairly often married couples at times verbally sparring in public at times in the kingdom hall or parking lot.
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Hello all again. I knew an elder and his wife who hurled abuses at each other in their home but were the epitome of upbeat happiness at the kingdom hall. It's amazing how many people are into the appearance thing. Anyway, a 20 year old brother was engaged to and dating their daughter and witnessed the abuse taking place . He reported it to the elders and the brother was removed as an elder. His wife was a pontificating ,selfish, mean person and tried to influence the congreagtion to support her husband in spite of his removal as elder.It split the congregation down the middle, for and against, a local needs talk was given about it, and in time the brother and his wife moved to a congregation on the coast 100 miles away, taking their show on the road. But my million dollar question is, What is the reason people can't just be the same way at the meetings in front of others as they are at home? Is it that hard for some people who live plastic, appearance only lives? What do you all think about that? Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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All Ex-Elders, Mr.Flipper going to Final MeetingW/Elders! I'll be careful!
by flipper inhello ex-elders, onthe wayout, snakes, and wilyloman, just to refresh about a month ago i told you all that the appeal committee had overturned the disfellowshipping decision by the original jc as the appeal committee got a hold of me by phone and told me the society gave them direction in this.
i have since explained the situation to my witness mom and dad, 80 &82, they are good with it.
i am taking copies of the counsel you ex elders gave to me to be careful about what i say at this "alleged encouragement" meeting and promise you this, i'll watch my words carefully when they ask me questions.
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Hello folks. Thank you so much for the kind words of support . It means more to me than you could ever know. I really did feel like I was talking to a couple of guys who were demon possessed themselves, if there is such a thing! It was supposed to be an encouragement meeting, but felt more like an interrogation or jc meeting. If this was their best version of showing love, I don't think I'd want to see their best version of hate. Oh! wait, we already are seeing some of it this year with the view on letting kids die with no blood transfusions and children being secretly molested. So glad to have loving friends who are real on jwd. All of your support is very welcome. You all feel like real friends to me and the Mrs
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I love Hannibal Lecter
by changeling ini've noticed on here lately a trend towards looking at the "sunny side" of otherwise unsavory historical figures.
i thought i'd climb on that band wagon.. i love hannibal lecter.
yes, i know he's a fictional character.
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Changeling- Mrs. Flipper said," Maybe since he only eats rude people, maybe we should introduce him to Ted Jaracz. He'll have a scrumptious feast." Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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3 months, not even a phone call about my late mother from the Dubs.....
by WingCommander inso......it has been 3 months since my mother passed away and not one, not one witness has called, stopped by, or even sent a card to me!
it hit me today.
i mean, i must have gotten like 50 sympathy cards in the mail from her worldly relatives and co-workers, as well as numerous phone calls, but not one witness has done anything!
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Wing Commander. Mr. Flipper and Mrs. Flipper send their heartfelt condolences to you. It is so true they are a heartless organization, I'm so sorry they treated you and what happened to you with such lack of caring and disdain. Mrs. Flipper just stated to me her theory on what makes them this way. She feels they are so beaten down by the daily routine of being witnesses that they are unable to have empathy. My theory is a lot less forgiving insofar as I was a witness from birth till 4 years ago. My theory? That they are pontificating bastards who are only concerned with people who are punching in the" time clock" so to speak getting good field service time in and reaching out making a "name" for themselves in the congregation. Sad but true! As soon as a member stops service or meetings., the caring stops. Please know wing commander, you have a lot of people on this board who care about you and your losses, and will treat you with dignity like a human being better than you were ever treated in the jw organization! If you ever want to talk, don't hesitate to pm me. Peace to you my friend, Mr. & Mrs. Flipper
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A year since my brothers death
by purplesofa intoday it's been a year since i got the call about my brothers suicide.. i posted on the board that i would be gone for awhile.
the support i got was unbelievable.
comforting.. as this first year has passed, the missing part is still there.
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Purple Sofa, Mr. & Mrs. Flipper send you our deepest condolences. We wish you peace.
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All Ex-Elders, Mr.Flipper going to Final MeetingW/Elders! I'll be careful!
by flipper inhello ex-elders, onthe wayout, snakes, and wilyloman, just to refresh about a month ago i told you all that the appeal committee had overturned the disfellowshipping decision by the original jc as the appeal committee got a hold of me by phone and told me the society gave them direction in this.
i have since explained the situation to my witness mom and dad, 80 &82, they are good with it.
i am taking copies of the counsel you ex elders gave to me to be careful about what i say at this "alleged encouragement" meeting and promise you this, i'll watch my words carefully when they ask me questions.
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Hi my friends, Mr. Flipper here to report on the alleged "encouragement" meeting with elders. It certainly felt like a jc meeting even though the chairman elder (there were only two) opened it by saying "As you know we talked a month ago and I told you the decision was not to disfellowship you, as we were directed by the society. That is still true. But we are here to encourage you to make a new( clean?) start for yourself in your home town congregation. You need to build yourself up by meetings and prayer."
So, I figured the best defense was a good offense and said exactly what ex elder Snakes in the tower ,On the Way Out, and Wilyloman suggested to say. I said," Well I believe it is Jehovah's organization ( gawd that was hard to say that ) but I've been really hurt at heart and stumbled by these false , slanderous allegations against me and it's going to take a long time to get over the hurt and my heart to trust again. My whole family was told I sinned by my ex-wife and daughter and maligned my good name to them. They did this even before the elders were involved!.These last 11 months this dragged on has been very hurtful."
Then I figured they were listening so I gave them more to listen to. I said," I don't want to charge my ex-wife with slander or my daughter but I feel there needs to be some concern on the elders part about their practices of slandering people. This was not the first time they did this to someone. My older daughter when leaving her mothers home went to live with a sister and her 23 year old daughter. The sister and her daughter worked at massage therapy and at times had clients, men come over for a legit professional massage. My ex started gossiping to others in her congregation that she felt it was immoral and wrong to have men over at her house, and that my daughter would be tempted to commit immorality with them if she was there or the men would take advantage of her. The massage therapy sister was incensed at my ex for spreading this rumor about her and her daughter and the p.o. in their congregation had to give a local needs talk about gossiping, my ex wife being the perpetrator." Then I told these elders," Shouldn't we be concerned for the peace of the congregations?" The chairman said," Well, there's nothing we can do to change that situation now and everybody is imperfect and says wrong things. The thing we are mainly concerned with is that you move ahead spiritually, forget the past and look to the future." I think I grunted some unintelligent babble to that idiot remark.
Then this chairman elder went on the offensive. This was like a damn chess game believe me. I like chess,too! He said," when we met with you 2 months ago, we had some concerns you were reading apostate literature." I said," How do you figure that?" He said," Because of bringing up your concern for the child molestation issue." I said, I read about the molestation settlements in a associated press newspaper article, and yes I was concerned about what it said because they seemed to be hiding information and forcing the victims to be quiet by putting a gag order on them saying anything about it. So yes I was concerned." Then the elder said," But you had a negative attitude about it." I said," Well I disagreed with them covering it over, I think that was wrong to do." Then the elder said," Well, that's where we need to have faith that Jehovah's organization is handling it the best way possible." I said,"Oh", feigning stupidity, but too tired to debate him.
Next up to bat was elder #2 who had been listening to everything. So he starts in on me. He says," You know if there had been better communication right from the start last August when this started, then it wouldn't have had to drag out 11 months." I looked at him and said," Are you saying I didn't communicate well enough and wasn't clear about everything?" He said," Well, had you allayed your daughters fears better and the elders concerns by being more open about things it wouldn't have stretched the time out so long!" I said," I feel I was very clear from the beginning that there was nothing to talk about, and I made clear that I had not done anything wrong. I even expressed that on the phone when telling the original jc committee chairman that I didn't want to meet because there was no substance to any charges. Then the next thing I know is 2 months after that conversation 2 elders come to my door and say I'm disfellowshipped!" I continued," I really feel they disfellowshipped me because they were mad I did not show up at their first jc meeting. It angered them so they made a show of their power by disfellowshipping me, that's my take." Chairman elder stepped in and says," Well it may appear that way, but they just wanted better communication is all. They thought you were hiding something." He continued," You know brother Flipper, when we join the organization we agree that the body of elders has authority. And if we are accused of a sin we have to cooperate with the elders as they have been appointed by Jehovah's holy spirit to take care of it. We show humility by cooperating. Even if myself as an elder were accused of something I'd even have to meet with the elders." Once again I grunted unintelligible babble.
Then Elder #2 steps in again and says," Well Br. Flipper, hopefully you can work on restoring your relationship with your daughter and improve communication with her." I said, " I have tried to talk with her on the phone, but she just disses and condemns me for not going to meetings, she is not an easy person to talk with, aggressively opinionated." I continued," I have some family that treats me good in the witnesses. Mom and dad support me, one older sister, son and wife. But my elder older brother and ex gilead sister don't. "Then he read me Hebrews 10:24,25 about meetings, blah,blah. So it was over.
I left them after 45 minutes of this mind numbing experience with a parting shot though.Elder #2 said," Oh, one of the elders would like to talk with your son about the bible sometime as he mentioned before. I said, "yes, I'm proud of my son, he has a good heart, an intelligent young man, I'm proud he's going to a university furthering his education, and also even though he does not go to meetings or isn't in the organization, I'm still proud of him and love him." Then I walked out the door while both the elders mouths were hanging open, and said," You guys have a good one." No peace out for them!!! LOL Thanks for all your support and now I will never have to face them again and can continue my incredible fade to the "inner light" which indeed is much brighter than the light the witnesses have
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All Ex-Elders, Mr.Flipper going to Final MeetingW/Elders! I'll be careful!
by flipper inhello ex-elders, onthe wayout, snakes, and wilyloman, just to refresh about a month ago i told you all that the appeal committee had overturned the disfellowshipping decision by the original jc as the appeal committee got a hold of me by phone and told me the society gave them direction in this.
i have since explained the situation to my witness mom and dad, 80 &82, they are good with it.
i am taking copies of the counsel you ex elders gave to me to be careful about what i say at this "alleged encouragement" meeting and promise you this, i'll watch my words carefully when they ask me questions.
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Mrs flipper here...just heard that mr flippers meeting went well - no df, just some scolding, preaching and lame excuses from the elders, a few choice comments from mr flipper, for about 45 minutes. They did say that's it, they're done. mr f is working about 900 hours today and all night but will write it up tomorrow. He said all your advice and support was very helpful. mrs f
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So who's having therapy then?
by sweet pea ini have made an appointment to see a therapist who has been highly recommended (i don't think i would ahve taken that step, had it not been for the recommendation and that this therapist is strongly involved with a church so probably has a pretty good idea about the issues involved with cults and the like).
are any of you currently in therapy, have had it or are about to have it?
for those that have, has it helped?
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Hey the above was me, mrs flipper. HEY - does anyone in Canada know of a good therapist in Mincan's area?