somebody knows what about subject this member will talk?
his talk will be transmited for all brazil at kingdon hall assembles.
Given the size of the following in places like Mexico and Brazil, I am surprised that there are not more 'high-level' visits.
On the other hand, the GB feel that they can sit in Brooklyn and manage the whole operation from their ivory tower.
Eyeslice
just wondering if you think it a possibility that in certain situations jw's would arrange a marriage?
i obviously haven't been part of the religion but was curious about a friend who i think this may have happened to.
he had been away from the jw's for about 3 yrs.
In the west the pressures are more subtle but in Africa and parts of SE Asia things are far more overt. I have known of CO's acting as 'match-makers'; now how scary is that?
A few years back a Watchtower article was devoted to 'Negoiating a Reasonable Bride Price'.
Watchtower 1998 - 9/15...According to one African newspaper, some marriages are negotiated "simply for the sake of profiteering by greedy fathers." Another factor is economic pressure that tempts some parents into viewing their daughters as a means of easing a financial crisis.
Some parents hold their daughters back from marriage because they are waiting for the highest bidder. This can cause serious problems. A newspaper reporter stationed in eastern Africa wrote: "Young people choose to elope to escape excessive dowries demanded by tenacious in-laws." Sexual immorality is one of the problems caused by the demand for a high bride-price. Furthermore, some young men manage to buy a wife but are left in heavy debt. "Parents should be reasonable," urged a South African social worker. "They should not demand high amounts. The newly married couple need to live . . . So why bankrupt the young man?"
How can Christian parents set an example of reasonableness when negotiating for the payment or receipt of a bride-price? This is a serious matter, for the Bible commands: "Let your reasonableness become known to all men."
Examples
of ReasonablenessWhen it comes to marriage negotiations, many Christian parents have set a fine example of reasonableness. Consider the case of Joseph and his wife, Mae, who serve as full-time evangelizers. They live on one of the Solomon Islands where bride-price negotiations are sometimes a problem. To avoid such difficulties, Joseph and Mae arranged for their daughter Helen to get married on a neighboring island. They did the same for another daughter, Esther. Joseph also agreed that his son-in-law Peter pay a bride-price well below what could reasonably be accepted. Asked why he did this, Joseph explained: "I did not want to make a burden for my son-in-law who is a pioneer."
when the service began shortly after dark, official estimates placed the number of people who had already found their place in the vast area at more than 1.5 million.
as the 2,100-voice choir began to minister, the people kept streaming into the area, and by the time the service was less than an hour old, more than 2 million were lifting their hands and praising god.
benny hinn is currently in india preaching to hundreds of thousands of people.
When the service began shortly after dark, official estimates placed the number of people who had already found their place in the vast area at more than 1.5 million. As the 2,100-voice choir began to minister, the people kept streaming into the area, and by the time the service was less than an hour old, more than 2 million were lifting their hands and praising God.
Benny Hinn is currently in India preaching to hundreds of thousands of people. Claims of miraculous cures are circulating. Is this not just exploitation of poor desperate people in the name of Christ?
Check the story out at;
www.bennyhinn.org/resources/fobindia.cfm
www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/jan222005/gallery.asp?pic=1
well it has been alot of years since we engaged in the rooming work.
did anyone of you experience postive results or were people nasty.
share some of your stories.
Pioneers were allowed to count time in rooming as part of their hours even though rooming work was about finding rooms for people rather than the good news.
Eyeslice
this is a sad story.
a jw woman dies and her obituary is below.
a few months later her distraught husband commits a grisly suicide.
Whilst I can to some extent understand how a person can be driven to suicide, I cannot get my mind why some people chose the most aweful ways to do it, leaving other people to clear up the dreadful mess.
Eyeslice
they finished high school?
college?
etc and what year were you told?.
the new order would be here before ......... I left high school in the early 70's.
35 years on, may it will be here before I retire. Happily (is that a JW word?) I have done lots in my life - it could have been such a waste.
Eyeslice
jesus said to pray continuously.
i don' pray anymore because nothing happens no matter what i ask.
ask for money, you won't get it because everyone wants money and it displeases god.. .
I agree with the sentiments of DH and Scooter girl.
I feel that we should pray that as individuals we are guided by God to his will, other things then fall into perspective.
Also, I pray for the material and emotional needs of others. I am sure that my family notice that my prayers have changed since the days of being the stereotypical JW. I try to be much more inclusive in my prayers. I pray that God be with all those in need, those with ill health and in poverty. How different from the JWs who pray only for the brothers and sisters under going persecution; how shallow that is.
Eyeslice
do you still think jws still call it, "book study conductor" or "congregation servant"?
or do you still say, "jws sell books"?
do jws take blood or don't they?
Hi Blondie,
They finally discontinued it because so few people prepared, including the elders.
There is also a bit of a twist in this; in that you don't need even to read all the Watchtowers nowadays in order to stay up to date. You simply skim through the "do you remember" article published at the back of the Watchtower every 3 months or so. You are the "Up" With All The Latest JW Rules, Lingo & Policies of The WT" in an instance.
Eyeslice
comments you will not hear at the 01 16 05 wt study (december 1, 2004)
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Wine and other alcoholic beverages like vegetation, bread, and oil, are fine provisions from God.
This is a reference from Psalms:
He makes grass grow for the cattle, and plants for man to cultivate- bringing forth food from the earth: wine that gladdens the heart of man, oil to make his face shine, and bread that sustains his heart.
I always had a bit of a problem with this when I was a JW, particularly when the issue of alcohol and get togethers came up in elders meetings. The general opinion is that people should never have "too much drink", i.e. drinking should be minimal. However, the above scripture is slightly ambiguous, and suggests to me more than a bear minimum. How much wine do you need to drink to gladden the heart? Surely not just one small glass; you need to drink a few large glasses, i.e. 2 to 3 units of alcohol in an hour, to get the effect of 'gladdening the heart".
Eyeslice
can anyone tell me if the organization believes that when a married spouse is addicted to pornography, they are actually cheating?
i mean cheating in the sense that the "innocent" spouse can then declare that they are victims of adultery, and be free to marry again?
i looked around their website and found nothing that specifically stated that it is considered cheating.
I believe fornication or porneia is currently defined has to include the "improper" use of at least one set of genitalia and two individuals/bodies. Thus an individual masturbating doesn't count, adultery does count, bestiality counts, etc. Phone sex seems to be a stretch, but I think did see somewhere that that would be considered porneia.
Glofishy,
I believe that you are quite close here. One of the last elders meetings with the CO (approx. 4 years ago) discussed this issue. Viewing pornography is viewed in a dim light but I doubt if anyone would be disfellowshipped for this alone. However, if when viewing pornography, the person masterbated, then this would not be considered 'porneia' but would be considered gross 'uncleanness' and therefore could lead to disfellowshipping.
Eyeslice
