But if freewill doesn't exist, does that mean that sex offenders, drug addicts and people who become JWs or grow up as Jws have absolutely no choice in the actions that they take?
The there is the debate about homosexuality; do we have any freewill when it comes to choosing our sexuality? That this is freewill is the argument of those who condemn gays.
There are those here who would string up sex offenders by the balls. However, I am more of a 'woolly liberal' type and tend to lean to the 'its in their nature + nurture' defense. Understanding and treatment rather than punishment - how can you punish something where freewill was not exercised?
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Freewill - does it really exist?
by eyeslice inpaul wrote in romans 7:19;"for what i do is not the good i want to do; no, the evil i do not want to do.
this i keep on doing.. so is there such a thing as free will, or are we all driven by our nature (our genes), .
our nurture or both?
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Freewill - does it really exist?
by eyeslice inpaul wrote in romans 7:19;"for what i do is not the good i want to do; no, the evil i do not want to do.
this i keep on doing.. so is there such a thing as free will, or are we all driven by our nature (our genes), .
our nurture or both?
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Paul wrote in Romans 7:19;"For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do
this I keep on doing.So is there such a thing as free will, or are we all driven by our nature (our genes),
our nurture or both? Or perhaps, everything has been predestined for us and what will be will be?Me? I don't think that I have much freewill. We are all driven by forces outside of our control.
I go to work each day because I have to put food on the table. It's not that I dislike my job, quite the opposite in fact
but it's probably not I would choose to do . We live where we do because we had to be close to my wife's ageing parents before
they died, and now we have kids, they want to be close to their friends, school, college, etc.There are a few people who totally live their lives as they please but I have a suspicion that these people are not
always the happiest of people and certainly have often caused much anxiety and pain to those they become close to.
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Just encase you are missing the "Bookstudy"!
by Rooster in*** truth book chap.16pp.140-150popularcustomsthatdispleasegod***.
popularcustomsthatdispleasegod.
we have everything worth while to gain and nothing of true value to lose by seeking to please god in all things.
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After that, not missing it at all.
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COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE WT STUDY 09-07-08 (HOUSE TO HOUSE MINISTR
by Mary in" (this would harmonize with matt 10:9 that tells them not to take any money with them).
" the interpretation of the acts of the apostles, 1961, pp.120-21.
it became evident, however, that further personal training in the house-to-house ministry was needed.
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Top work Mary.
The society still clings to the 'house to house' work even though that it is evident that it is having absolutely no success in the west, where witnesses going from door to door has become a joke. Although there is growth in the developing world, they could achieve the same growth using other methods - evangelicals appear to me to be growing in Africa and India more rapidly than the witnesses and they use slight different tactics for attracting new members - for example charitable handouts. -
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Who remembers the NWT Bible on 3.5 inch Floppy Disks?
by eyeslice inat the dawn of the age of the pc, before the advent of the cd, when pcs had 10 mg hard drives and when few people had pcs at home, the society brought out what at the time was an amazing piece of software: the nwt bible for the pc.
i think it came on something like 12 3.5 inch floppy disks, which took an eternity to load, but as a piece of software was really cool at the time.
it allowed for a full text search way before yahoo and google ever were thought of.
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There is nothing more manly than computing from a C: prompt.
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Do young JWs care about the dates 1914 or 1919 anymore?
by 1914BS inthe wt mags are using the word "1914" and "1919" less often because jw teenagers today could not care less about the hard core teachings of the past.
the jw religion today is not the same religion it was even 10 years ago.
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I find the Watchtower and Awake to be totally vague now a days regarding key Watchtower dates.
I am sure that the average JW is no theologian and do not understand or care about theology. THose remain in do so because of family and social reasons, not for any love of God or a conviction that we are living in the end times. -
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Do you keep your Yellow Pages phone books? Or pitch them when they arrive?
by AlmostAtheist ini just got a fresh supply of yellow pages books.
three huge volumes in a plastic bag.
it's my 3rd shipment this year, from various suppliers, i assume.
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Straight in the re-cycling. Who needs these when you can find everything faster on the internet?
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What was your first Computer?
by The Lone Ranger inthe last topic got me thinking about this.. my first computer was back in 1981, a sinclair zx81, it has 1k of memory.
then in 1982 i progressed to a clone of an apple 2 with 16k of memory which i incresed to 48k, a floopy drive for that apple cost me $600 !!!
.. in approx 1987 i got an ibm xt 640megs with a 20meg hard drive..it was like a dream .
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Ah the days when you saved your programs on to cassette tapes!
I once spent days programming Yahtzee for the Atari and cam home one day to find that my kids had 'borrowed' my tape and recorded music over the top of my program. No easy way to back up work in those days -
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Senior Citizens......How does your congregation treat them?
by crazyblondeb innot as good as they use too... but then again they are following the lead of the wts.
why bother with fellowship when you can plug everyone into the telephone.. one one hand they are pushing fs, on the other they are making so many changes that several of the elderly are getting depressed, especially ever since the may 1, 2007 qfr.
with the afternoon bs soon yanked, many not allowed to drive at night, and elderships that don't care enough to orchestrate carpools....it is bad..
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I really do think it is sad that the Society isn't more charitable. Surely, this is the very essence of Christianity.
What is interesting is that people who are socially aware and active tend to be the happiest. The Watchtower continues to totally focus on FS, an activity that is totally unrewarding as a socially.
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If You Were "In" A Religion, Which One would You Want To Be A Member Of?
by minimus inpersonally, i'm not into any religion but i think that most protestants are ok. catholicism isn't my thing at all.
judaism, i've always been interested in.
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I like the idea of Universalism. It appeals to my quite liberal out look on life.