last evening we went out with 2 other former jw couples a couple of guys and their wives i knew from the old days of bethel.
we were discussing the public apology that the catholic church just authorized to be made to the child abuse victims for their cases being mishandled as well as that $100 million dollar check they just cut.. .
and i will ask you all the same question .
In a word "No".
Like Axelspeed, I remember writing down the points in my copy of the "Shepherd" book. The point is though, because of the way the society always works in a secretive and manipulative manner, they will never admit to any wrong doing. Just like in the days of the old Soviet Union where the government worked in the same way and would never admit to any wrong or blame.
Eyeslice
i'm thinking through my new position on blood transfusions, and would appreciate your 'pearls of wisdom.
i now feel that, while a blood transfusion is still dangerous, i would accept it as a last resort, if all else failed.
i would not die, or allow any of my family to die, for want of a transfusion of plasma, platelets, or red or white cells.
This is a really interesting question and we probably need an expert (like Scully perhaps?) here. The Society used to make a bit of a point about the conclusion of the letter from the apostles - "if you keep these things, good health to you". (Acts 10:29).
However, my understanding is that blood fractions are usually obtained from "pooled" blood sources. For example, a single dose of a blood clotting factor might have come from blood pooled from 200 or 300 blood donations. Hence the risk of contracting AIDs or CJD from a fraction could be potentially higher from a fraction than from the whole blood of 3 or 4 individuals in a transfusion of 3 or 4 units..
Eyeslice
lately he's very become impatient and rather explosive in temper.
i can't cover it up anymore, and i'm so tired of pretending in the organization.. need to leave this man and this religious organization in a hurry!.
any of you divorced because of the wtbts?
Hi Doubtfully Yours,
Sorry to read about your troubles. A close friend of ours is going through a similar difficult time, having to leave an emotionally, physically and sexually abusive husband. Some advice from her experiences;
1) Make sure you know who your close family and friends are, i.e. those whom you can trust and confide in. You will need absolute trust in these and you will be surprised how supportive they will be.
2) You must take legal advice. Our friends was reluctant to do this but when she did do this at my insistence, she was glad she did. You will be emotionally too close to things. A lawyer may be expensive but they see things without the emotions you have and can help you see the wood from the trees.
3) Take a zero tolerance approach. If necessary involve the police and authorities. You do not need to be in fear of any recriminations from an abusive spouse.
Best wishes
Eyeslice
one of the things jws pride themselves in as that they know their bible (new world translation).
Exactly as C onfusedjw
Yeah I did and I was pretty darn good at it. And I believed what I knew. That's why it was so hard when I learned I was teaching lies to others - esp my family.
yes, that was me. Eyeslice
i'd like to get a sense of the scholars any of you out there appreciate most and who's hot right now (in the academic fields!)...
i always liked burton mack myself.
well, who would you love to meet?
William Barclay for me too. He has come across to me as a very balanced and loving Christian with a wealth of knowledge.
the last time i posted this the doc.
was to small, so i enlarged it.
see if this can be read.
Interesting theme - "Godly Obedience". The r&f just cannot get enough of being obedient!
as i walked back from the bank to my car yesterday i saw an elder and his wife from my old, old congregation.
i waved, but they didn't see me.
they entered their car, backed up and i stood exactly two feet away from their window smiling and waving.
Logansrun
Know the feeling myself. Any religion that thinks it the monopoly on God and truth becomes dogmatic and domineering - it's not just a trait of JWs. They then protect the power they hold over the rank and file by behaving in the manner only too frequently described on this board.
eyeslice
thanksgiving means more than turkey.
it means giving thanks for the things we are grateful for.. i am grateful i'm sober, relatively healthy, and have a terrific relationship with the love of my life.
i can no longer work, and he provides for me, pays my health insurance and medical, food, shelter, entertainment, travel.
I am grateful for everything I have. I count my blessings every day.
eyeslice
i know they're desperate for new members for that annual service report; but she is wayyyyy too young to know what she's doing to her life.
:( there should seriously be a minimum age for this.
Many young ones I have know were pressured into early baptism, and this is totally wrong.
However, there is an interesting alternative angle on this.
Leaving JWs aside, it is generally agreed that religious conviction or lack off is generally established between the ages of 12 to 16. After that, it is very difficult to completely change a person's core convictions, e.g.whilst it may be possible to 'convert a Catholic to be a JW, it is much more difficult to convert an atheist. I am not saying that it never happens but as a general rule, a person's core convictions are usually established at a young age.
Eyeslice
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