man escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
Jwdaughter:
Yes Shelly, that is awful and discraceful. It is sad that some people who claim to be witnesses really are not.
So she is saying that this (suspected) Elder is NOT REALLY A WITNESS !!!
How can Jehovah let that happen to "his" organisation. ???
Maybe he should be disfellowshipped for that instead !
As Ms Midwich says, today's "Times" newspaper says that he is believed to be an Elder now.
Not sure why the BBC took that line out, maybe they couldn't substantiate it ?
man escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
Porter declined to comment as he left court with his wife.He remains an elder in the religion.Correct
But less than an hour later the part He remains an elder in the religion was removed. So Danny was not telling lies when he first reported it.
Yes, I saw it too.
Good catch Danny - it's all over the news here. TV and Radio commentators are covering it also.
a recent thread ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/139118/1.ashx ) raised the issue of charles taze russell not being the first president of the watchtower... it appears to be an argument of semantics because the society had a different name (as one poster pointed out in the thread).
the watchtower society obviously has some embarassment over this issue because the amendments to the revelation book dealt with this :.
full size scans here :.
AlphaOmega.
I think you are reading too much into it.
M
Maybe, but then why alter the text ?
To use a cliche... "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Why do you think that this has been omitted from the revised edition ?
It was cold in the queue outsire !
yep, everyone i have talked to -----first question they ask----but where will you go?
i tell them anywhere as long as it is away from the clutches of the wt.
the house is on fire!
I agreee with Ms Emo,
The have totally perverted this scripture in order to apply it to themselves.
They may get away with it in little dribs and drabs, but all this constant self-referencing becomes a joke. Just take a look at the Revelation Climax book for a million daft examples !
AO
a recent thread ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/139118/1.ashx ) raised the issue of charles taze russell not being the first president of the watchtower... it appears to be an argument of semantics because the society had a different name (as one poster pointed out in the thread).
the watchtower society obviously has some embarassment over this issue because the amendments to the revelation book dealt with this :.
full size scans here :.
We can still use the Studies in the Scriptures - the Proclaimers book has photos of them in it
Did anyone manage to get the HTML file to load ?
AO
i am interested to know what you know about jesus and what you really think of his teachings.. the bible says there is only one way to heaven.. jesus said: "i am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the father but by me.
" (john 14:6) .
the lord jesus was crucified and shed his precious blood to wipe away our sins (revelation 1:5).
Yeah sure, this was several pages back, but eh, what the heck...
(Poster asking about a DVD)
Which is the reality ? Watchting it, or holding it all in your hand ?Er...the reality bit came in right about the time they were filiming the car chase you talked about being on the DVD....
The DVD...is just a film of the reality encoded on some metal and plastic...
OK, bye now...
Yes... I know.
As I said, it was an analogy and like all analogies, they fall apart. I guess that if I had to try to find a place in this analogy for the filming of this DVD then it would have to be in the realm of "the creator" ???? I was just trying to describe something that can be viewed either in "real time" or all at once. Maybe I should have said "Which experience is more real, watching it in real time or holding it all 'happening at once' in your hand" My answer is that they are both as real as each other.
a recent thread ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/139118/1.ashx ) raised the issue of charles taze russell not being the first president of the watchtower... it appears to be an argument of semantics because the society had a different name (as one poster pointed out in the thread).
the watchtower society obviously has some embarassment over this issue because the amendments to the revelation book dealt with this :.
full size scans here :.
I'm fiercely defending my old edition of the Revelation book at the moment - managed to get it just before they brought out the new one.
The JW who brought it seems very twitchy about the fact that they gave me that one instead of the new one - they were going to try do a swap but I said as long as there aren't any majorchanges I'll be ok with the copy I have - I don't want to them waste money getting another copy...
Well, what could they say?
Nice thinking ! I had to settle for a new one... but I managed to get an old one from www.abebooks.co.uk Now the two sit side by side on my bookshelf like two peas in a pod... ...Except one pea is full of made up cack and the other is full of new made up cack !
i am interested to know what you know about jesus and what you really think of his teachings.. the bible says there is only one way to heaven.. jesus said: "i am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the father but by me.
" (john 14:6) .
the lord jesus was crucified and shed his precious blood to wipe away our sins (revelation 1:5).
Eclipse... I agree with much that you say
Faith does not need evidence....
I agree, and if you have evidence, it is not faith.
They can quote scripture to me till the cows come home and it will not make a difference.
I agree also... I've never understood why anyone would quote the Bible to someone who doesn't believe it. Isn't that akin to quoting "Harry Potter" to someone as proof that he exsisted ?
Unless I heard a LOUD BOOMING VOICE come out of the sky, (as loud as a fighterjet flying 30 feet above the ground,)
and that voice said, ''ECLIPSE! Because you have chosen to forsake me, I will forsake you, and down to the depths of hades I will throw you, be prepared to die!''
Well, then, I would probably believe....
I don't believe that is how it works. Doesn't seem compassionate to me.
The Wiccans ( I know many) have a good ethic in relation to this...
They view an attempt to "convert" someone to their beliefs, or to get them to change paths is harmful and covered by the following in the Wiccan Rede...
These Eight words the Rede fulfill:
"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
many new ones or lurkers may not know this but charles russell was not the first wt president like they teach!
who cares you may say?
well if i showed you where they acknowledged this in 1993, but as recent as 2001 they were still printing he was, would that not be valuable to you to show others the watchtowers deliberate deciept??
The Revelation Book was altered to remove many reference to Russell being the first president of the society.
I started a new thead with scans here http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/140647/1.ashx
The thread also contains more Revelation Book changes, so I thought it best to start a new thread.
AO
