Mad, I echo what Eclipse said, which is pretty much what I was saying to you on "the other place" before you duplicated this post over there.
It's gnawing away inside you - you know it.
One day you'll be free - just like HE intended from day 1.
AO
AlphaOmega
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This Board is REFRESHING!
by freefromthewt ineven tho some of you will think i'm making this up- i'm not!-.
walking next to the river, thinking & praying on these matters, i compared the spirit displayed here and on other boards, and realized it is heightening my bond and respect for my brotherhood!
also, i started playing 'what if' with what i have always considered some of our 'goofy speculation of prophecy' - such as the small, little better than a church group, band of what eventually became the first jws released from prison in 1919...what if - as ridiuculous as it sounds- it was true!.
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Does God love you?
by nvrgnbk ininteresting read.. .
god hates you; but god is hungry and needs you to help him eat your soul.
he chuckles to himself that he cannot only suck out your life and being, but he can make you believe the lie as well.
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I agree with Eclipse - he is a paradox.
As is clear from my posts, I am a Christian, but I guess that I understand God in a different way to the typical "old man on a throne" image.
We are told that we were made in his image - to me that means the capacity to know Dark and Light.
To further Eclipse's phrase... he is a paradox ...
He is the dark and he is the light,
He is the loud and he is the quiet,
He is the near and he is the far,
He is the now and he is the then,
He is the yin and he is the yang.Yet he is static,
He is the unmoved mover,
He is "THE ALL",
He IS.We have the capacity to be all of those contrasting things,
WE are the expressions of him,
Infact we ARE him expressing.Okay... it seems that I am getting weirder now... I'd better stop
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I walked off the job today....
by Terry incan't explain this one.. right in the middle of my shift i became disassociative.. my brain locked and i threw my hands up and kept repeating, "i can't do this!
i can't take this!
right out the front door of the bookstore.. i wasn't angry.
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EDITED TO REMOVE PERSONAL INFO Terry you have a PM AOI'm still waiting on a callback for appointment by the therapist.......it is 4:03 right now. I wonder how long it would take if I hadn't said it was an emergency??
Anyway...
Today I notice any sort of waiting stresses me. I took my daughter to a doctor's appointment for allergies and almost crawled out of my skin in the waiting room for 45 minutes.
Then, a few minutes ago I had to wait in line for an ice cream for my son and I while 4 women made up their mind about which flavor they wanted. I was ready to climb the wall. I really must be tense.
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Michael Porter - (Paedophile) Elder Status
by AlphaOmega ini've just stumbled upon this... it looks like it has had some information added to it.
it denies that michael porter was an elder, but the language used seems only to rule out the fact that he was an elder at mill hill... not his original congregation.
is this new info - the date seems to suggest that it is old ?
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AlphaOmega
fokyc... is it possible to cut and paste the text or an mht file ? The site requires a login.
Many thanks... intrigued.
AO
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WAC bids a farewell to the JWD community
by What-A-Coincidence init's been lots of fun.
thanks simon and co. thanks to the many forum members who posted life saving information.
without it, i would still be part of the collective.
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AlphaOmega
WAC,
Loved reading your posts... and really appreciated the things that you have done.
Keep us updated - and enjoy your freedom AO
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Michael Porter - (Paedophile) Elder Status
by AlphaOmega ini've just stumbled upon this... it looks like it has had some information added to it.
it denies that michael porter was an elder, but the language used seems only to rule out the fact that he was an elder at mill hill... not his original congregation.
is this new info - the date seems to suggest that it is old ?
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AlphaOmega
I've just stumbled upon this... it looks like it has had some information added to it. it denies that Michael Porter was an Elder, but the language used seems only to rule out the fact that he was an Elder at MILL HILL... not his original congregation.
Is this new info - the date seems to suggest that it is old ? Also, the use of the word "church" seems interesting... Today's most viewed <<Back to most read Paedophile freed in 'horrific' verdict By Rebecca Lowe Free man: Michael PorterA paedophile who committed a string of sex attacks against children as young as 18 months old was spared jail last week, prompting a torrent of criticism over the leniency of his sentence.
Michael Porter, 38, of Okehampton Close, North Finchley, walked free from Bristol Crown Court on Thursday, despite admitting three charges of gross indecency and 22 charges of indecent assault.
Judge Thomas Crowther QC decided that 'complex' issues in Porter's childhood made his actions 'understandable' and sentenced him to a three-year community rehabilitation order.
He was also handed a Sexual Offences Prevention Order, banning unsupervised contact with children under 18 and living or sleeping at an address where there are children.
Judge Crowther said: "What's important to realise is that you had changed your life before there was any question of these matters being revealed and I'm as satisfied as I can be."
The Attorney General is considering appealing the ruling, which also sparked anger from Porter's victims, child welfare groups and his own sister, Tina Hughes.
Ms Hughes, 40, of Clevedon, near Bristol, said: "He hasn't lost anything. He hasn't even lost his wife. He hasn't been affected in any way. He can go away and pretend nothing has happened because he doesn't have to live here.
"Nothing happened to him as a child. He was the angel of all the family. He is who he is, a paedophile. He will never be safe on the streets."
Michele Elliott, of charity Kidscape, said the sentence was an 'appalling, horrific decision'.
She added: "If ever there was a man who deserved to be in prison, it's this man. He will be a continued danger to children for the rest of his life. I hope the judge can sleep at night."
Porter carried out his attacks between 1986 and 2000, groping boys as they slept in bed and taking advantage of children as he babysat them.
He handed himself in to police in Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, last October, after one victim went to leaders of the Portishead Jehovah's Witness church, where he and his family were members.
Robert Davies, prosecuting, said some of the victims were unaware they had been abused, including an 18-month-old baby and a three-year-old boy.
This week, leaders of the Jehovah's Witness church refuted widespread claims that the church was standing by the paedophile.
Jehovah's Witness spokesman Tony Brace, based at the church's national headquarters at The Ridgeway, Mill Hill, said: "Anyone who has been convicted of this type of offence would be removed from office immediately. He would neither be allowed to be an elder nor a charity trustee.
"Of course, he could attend as a member of the public, but the elders of that particular church would keep a strict eye on him."
Peter Bell, presiding overseer of Jehovah's Witness centre, at Kingdom Hall, East Barnet Road, denied media reports that Porter had ever been an elder there.
He said: "The courts misreported the facts. Porter has never been an elder here and never will be. He will not be an elder anywhere.
"He was removed from the church in November as soon as his actions were known. We have a strict protocol that anytime something like this happens, we direct them to go immediately to the police, which is what he did."
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Do you really want to save us?
by nvrgnbk inthis is for the christians.. let's put our swords away.. try to convince those of us that have lost our faith to accept jesus christ and all that that acceptance entails.. pretend that our lives( eternal) depend on it.. that's what you believe isn't it?.
this is an opportunity to win souls for christ.. yes.
things may get heated.
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AlphaOmega
Maybe I'm just not cut out for it then. I've felt extremely low in the past, and I never once thought there was a higher power. I knew that I would need real solutions, real help from real people. It's like when people pray to God if a relative is in a serious condition in hospital. If they get better, they believe God was with them. But they forget about the doctors and nurses who did the real help. I've just never understood it. Who they help to recovery is completely random- Muslims, Hindus, Christians, atheists, etc. Same with when people are at a low point. Sometimes something will come along- a friend may come round just before they commit suicide say, but other people go through with it and kill themselves. It seems like pure coincidence to me who God helps and doesn't help.
I don't think it is a question of "being cut out for it"... that implies predestination, which seems unfair, and on the face of it also a denial of free-will.
It may seem like a pure coincidence, and that also seems unfair... I agree. I think that when I have been in my "low...very low" situation, I was not looking for God to act as an external force, more like I was wishing him to act through those around me... In the words of Douglas Adams...
No one can hand you a pre-packaged answer. If they claim to do that, then they are likely trying to lead you somewhere that THEY wish you to be, for their own reasons. It may well be down to "seeing what you want to see"... For example... Are daisies growing through cracks in concrete a nuisance, or are they a demonstration of nature starting to take control ? Even the BIG examples of miracles are explained away (or attempted to be so)... and for some those self-same miracles are proof of the exsistence of a greater power. That is the beauty and the frustration... no-one is forced to believe. It's just really rough when you are in a Mulder-like state of "wanting to believe", yet the experience that would convice you eludes you. AODouglas Adams, in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, uses his Babel fish to demonstrate a rationalist/fideist paradox:
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Do you really want to save us?
by nvrgnbk inthis is for the christians.. let's put our swords away.. try to convince those of us that have lost our faith to accept jesus christ and all that that acceptance entails.. pretend that our lives( eternal) depend on it.. that's what you believe isn't it?.
this is an opportunity to win souls for christ.. yes.
things may get heated.
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AlphaOmega
Maybe that's when they "hear and see" him the best. Perhaps it's Love telling you to listen....what you're going through is okay. You will get through it because it's just an experience, but go within and find Him and listen.
Journey-On...
Looks like we said the same thing at the same time
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Do you really want to save us?
by nvrgnbk inthis is for the christians.. let's put our swords away.. try to convince those of us that have lost our faith to accept jesus christ and all that that acceptance entails.. pretend that our lives( eternal) depend on it.. that's what you believe isn't it?.
this is an opportunity to win souls for christ.. yes.
things may get heated.
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AlphaOmega
It seems to me that's the perfect time to need some hope to carry on. I think I'd be right in saying more people 'find God' when they are low than when they feel on top of the world.
I'll agree with that.
It seems that when we are very low, when we mourn (for things or people), when we grieve - these are the times that we are exposed and raw. Our notions of "self" drop away and we no longer TRY to do all those everyday things that we believe make "us" us.
All pretence is gone, because it seems so petty. We no longer care about living up to our self-crafted image, we just ARE.
When we are low, we shut out all the clutter of our lives, all the noise, all the obligations, we just lie there helpless.
It is then that we are able to hear the whisper that has been speaking to us all along.
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Do you really want to save us?
by nvrgnbk inthis is for the christians.. let's put our swords away.. try to convince those of us that have lost our faith to accept jesus christ and all that that acceptance entails.. pretend that our lives( eternal) depend on it.. that's what you believe isn't it?.
this is an opportunity to win souls for christ.. yes.
things may get heated.
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AlphaOmega
I cited my source AO!
Acknowledged.
I'll call off the legal team !