Posts by AlphaOmega

Not sure about JWs, but over here, "old age" has become a more common cause of death than it used to be... It is now medically acceptable to put that in some circumstances, rather than indicate which system or organ of the body failed.

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I have found something truly horrific.

by cultswatter in

this is big, very big.

bigger that pascal petite(well, just as big), bigger than the demonic hand or the rams head in the live forever book!!.

to present this properly, i will need a scan of the page in the live forever book where the thief is running from the police clutching a bag of goods.

AlphaOmega

As to the artwork...do they have people pose for these illustrations?
Yes.
If so, then they would have props around that get reused also.
Bingo!

Spooky... we were just saying that on another thread.

The props are from the Watchtower's dressing up box http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/144617/4.ashx

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This is the argument my dad used to justify "new light"

by marmot in

i was talking with my dad the other week and i revealed my doubts (well, not doubts really, conviction) that noah's flood didn't cover the earth.

he tried the usual, first he printed up all the stuff on the flood that he could find on the wt cd (even though i told him that i already read everything the society has ever written about the flood) and when that failed to convince me he brought out the ol' trust in jehovah(tm) line .

plus, he said that since i was so enamored with science to disprove the flood i should consider how science doesn't have the same position on certain subjects compared to the past and that it's based on progressive understanding.

AlphaOmega

The thing with science is that it is continually searching and adding new evidence into the melting pot.
The Watchtower usually ignores new evidence (for example - the cuniform receipts disproving 607 BC etc).

The Watchtower claims to rely on the Bible. The Bible is unchanging - so there cannot be new evidence ensuing from it. So where does the Watchtower find any basis for new evidence that is supposedly contributing to New Light ?

The simple answer is that there cannot be. It simply changes the doctrines to suit it's current drive.
The Watchtower simply announces that things have changed - that they have a "greater understanding" now - based on what ?

Look at the example of the May 1st QFR - what new evidence was brought to light then ? None ! They simply said that they had a "new understanding" (if I remember rightly).

Also, science is not one unified body - hence there are many people all striving for the same goal - that of understanding. It has no overall leadership - and hence no overall body to serve... The new theories and evidence adds to the GLOBAL understanding. It just exsists under the umbrella of "science"...

...unlike the Governing Body.

All the docrines, all the practices are created by them, and fed down. There is no independent research allowed. No "free thinkers" saying, "you know what, maybe XYZ... let's find out if that's a possibility".

The teachings are simply "magicked" into existance. Then the "evidence" is cobbled together in a hurried fashion. Then later that same "evidence" is used to back up a contrary teaching.

Science deals with "what is observed", then theories are created to work out "why it is so", and further evidence created to prove or disprove the hypothesis. It is objective.

Watchtower deals with a problem, then creates the doctrine to plug the gap. This can only ever be a temporary solution.

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Watchtower ONLINE DONATIONS

by AlphaOmega in

anyone know if this has been mentioned in the congregations ?.

maybe it is so we can donate money for the literature that we download ?

http://www.jwgift.org.

AlphaOmega

I once was asked by WT to buy something very expensive for them, but I cant say what....anyway, I could get the item cheaper than them, because the seller had reasons for not wanting to sell to WT. Point is, I bet there are lots of brothers doing business with WT...not that there is anything wrong with that...oompa

Was it one of those black helicopters - the ones with the secret listening devices... and the gadgets that show what apostates have on their computers ?

Can I have one ?

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WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!!

by jakes in

jw
friends

we have won the rugby world cup.. sorry england!.

cheers!!!.

jakes.

AlphaOmega

Truth is, I'm not actually into Rugby or most sports, watch a bit of cricket that's about it. As long as Collingwood don't ever win the Australian Football League final I'm happy. The less we have to put up with Eddie McGuire's smug face, the better!

WOO HOO !!!

I can't stand sport either !!! Even more so just watchting it !!

Cycling is fun though - but not watching it on TV !!!

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Watchtower ONLINE DONATIONS

by AlphaOmega in

anyone know if this has been mentioned in the congregations ?.

maybe it is so we can donate money for the literature that we download ?

http://www.jwgift.org.

AlphaOmega

Hi Snakes (Sankes)...

...At one of the UK conventions this year, I was also amazed to see a line of people ready to donate via card.

Plus, if I remember rightly there were also cash machines on site...

What are the vendor carts? ...and what is hawking food ?

Help a European out please

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A better look at the triangle

by cultswatter in

enjoy.

that link was no good try again .......just waiting for the file to upload.... damn glitch somewhere... sorry ... actually the file blacked out one of the pics... very strange ... that was a slow down load for it not to work.... sorry.... still waiting for the new link..... this works .

http://www.mediafire.com/?bs0clm4ib3s.

AlphaOmega

AO, is this some "new light" they are preparing us for subliminally?
Is the WT gonna go with the Trinity now?

I very much doubt it... I guess that the symbol can be used for pretty much anything - so it is possible to read into it what you want.... However, it might be fun to point out that it is a Trinitarian symbol to a few dubs

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A better look at the triangle

by cultswatter in

enjoy.

that link was no good try again .......just waiting for the file to upload.... damn glitch somewhere... sorry ... actually the file blacked out one of the pics... very strange ... that was a slow down load for it not to work.... sorry.... still waiting for the new link..... this works .

http://www.mediafire.com/?bs0clm4ib3s.

AlphaOmega

Popular Representations of theTrinityin England, 990-1300 by Ursula Rowlatt--
"Attempts had been made since the earliest days of the Church to present religious ideas to the illiterate by means of art. [1] In that the doctrine of the Trinity is intrinsically hard to illustrate, the simplest way of referring to it was by certain diagrams involving three components; such were the trefoil, an equilateral triangle, an eye within a triangle, a circle within a triangle or a triangle within a circle, a triquetra (a continuous interweaving of three arcs), a triskelion (a three-sided, swirling figure within a circle), and three interwoven circles (Child and Colles 1971, 44; Post 1975, 16; Sill 1976, 207)."
http://www.christiancadre.org/topics/trinity.html

Uh...oh.... Someone said the "T" word.

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A better look at the triangle

by cultswatter in

enjoy.

that link was no good try again .......just waiting for the file to upload.... damn glitch somewhere... sorry ... actually the file blacked out one of the pics... very strange ... that was a slow down load for it not to work.... sorry.... still waiting for the new link..... this works .

http://www.mediafire.com/?bs0clm4ib3s.

AlphaOmega

CIRCLE: The circle is a universal symbol for everlasting life, wholeness, and unity. A circle in a triangle symbolizes eternity and the trinity, three circles intertwined symbolize equality, unity and the co-eternal nature of the trinity.
TRIANGLE:
Three equal sides of the triangle form the perfect trinity. Also a symbol for equality, the triangle is a universal symbol for unity
http://www.hennaking.com/henna_topics.htm

alt Found under "Christian Symbols"... but with no explanation