Is a colleague someone from work or a friend? I wouldn't really say yes to someone at work unless I had been friends w/ them for a while and knew they were trustworthy. IF it's a friend that you know and trust, then I'd say go for it. It would be nice to help someone out, right? Plus, you're not using that bedroom for anything anyway- it'd be nice to have someone help w/ the rent. Just make sure you KNOW they're financially responsible. If they have bad credit or have gone bankrupt in the past, or can't keep a steady job, bad feelings will brew and bridges will be burned if they end up bailing on you!
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Do any of you have experience with having flatmates?
by zagor ini've been asked by two colleagues to rent one of my rooms, not that i have too many, it is an average studio with 2 bedrooms.
just wondering if any of you had experience with that and what thought of it.. to add: i'm not often at home anyway and neither are they so for now it is mostly a place to have a sleep lol
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The End will have come by then. Haven't you been reading your Bible silly?
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Did you ACTUALLY do this?
by Frequent_Fader_Miles inas part of your "dedication and baptism" did you actually go to jehovah in prayer and "dedicate" your life to him prior to your baptism?
at the time when the elders were reviewing the "questions" with me, i hadn't a clue that i was supposed to do this until one of them asked directly.
i answered in the affirmative anyway ... wanting the incessant questioning to be over as quickly as possible.
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Yeah, I did.
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Been "worldly" for 4 months now
by themonster123 inwell, i left around january or february, and it's been about 3 months or so experiencing "worldly" living.
i gotta say...it's been an interesting and uncomfortable transition, to say the least.
i would just like to update everyone on how i'm doing, and share some of my worldly experiences, as well.
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Wow- I wanted to thank everyone for all the fantastic feedback. and I did want to clarify a few things-I didn't walk into some random bar alone- I went to Dave and Busters with my girlfriend and a couple other people I ALREADY know and i met some OTHER new people (which is where the crazy do-anything-for-money guy came along).
And as for that guy I dated, I didn't meet HIM at a bar. I saw his small band play at some cute little coffee shop and that's how we met, no alcohol involved. Just wanted to clarify....
And thanks everyone for all the good advice and being empathetic about my new Life.:)
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Ever notice how interested worldly friends were to hear you'd left...zzzzzz
by Gregor inthe first few years after i got my head out of my jw ass i assumed that worldly associates would be fascinated to hear of my escape....wrong.
most of them looked at me like "what the f--- are you talking about?"...
"who cares?
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Yeah, being a Witness my whole life was the cornerstone of my personality!! Now that I'm not a Witness, I've lost a LOT of my identity, and it's like I have to start fresh again. Being a witness (when you believe it) is in your heart, your soul (even though we ARE a soul-lol), your entire being. Your Life IS being a Witness. And to realize it's all a farce after all, then you based your life-so-far on a farce and you didn't even know it, and now...what? What do you believe? What has meaning? What's right and wrong? Everything turns from black and white to a murky gray and it's a nothing-ness that is hard for a worldly person to wrap their head around, but IDENTITY is a huge thing. But it's never too late to start over.
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My JW visitors returned again. I'm officially an RV.
by kwintestal inthey've actually been back a couple times but i haven't been home.. the first time the came back was the day of the memorial, they dropped off a second invitation, just in case i misplaced the first one, i guess.
my wife was home and talked to them for a couple seconds but they weren't too interested in talking to her.. it had been a little while since the first time i talked to them as i've been busy on saturdays, so this time they came on a thursday afternoon around 3pm and i just happened to be home.
the lady started out by saying how last time she visited we talked about world conditions, which we didn't as you can read in my previous post on the matter, and then went on, reading a scripture, the one that talked of the last days where all these horrible things will happen, like greed and drunkeness, children won't listen to parents and people won't love god.
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I live pretty far from an established neighborhood, so Witnesses never come to my door, but if they did, I wouldn't say anything of note to them-or start questioning their faith. It's wrong to do that I think. MY journey of leaving the Witnesses started 95% from the inside, not necessarily external factors. And to impose those external factors on someone before they're ready (and for a Witness to leave, they really have to be READY from the inside)-I think is wrong. You wouldn't be helping them, really just hurting them. Like, now my whole world revolves around how I DON"T believe in the Witnesses. When I was a Witness, everything revolved around how they WERE right. SO whatever you believe, you will fit everything else into your belief system. Now I've seen it from both sides of the fence.
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"If your body members you control, you make known that the Truth isyourown!
by themonster123 inhey, i always felt alittle uncomfortable singing that line in the songbook, not that's it not good advice and all, buuuuuuttt..... anyway, along that same thread i wanted to start a made-up lyrics game (using the songbook's lyrics)-thought it would be funny.
here, i'll start.... .
(from p. 53- "theocracy's increase").
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Hey, I always felt alittle uncomfortable singing that line in the songbook, not that's it not good advice and all, buuuuuuttt.....
Anyway, along that same thread I wanted to start a made-up lyrics game (using the songbook's lyrics)-thought it would be funny.
Here, I'll start...
(from p. 53- "Theocracy's Increase")
Hail the Theocracy ever increasing! Wondrous expansion is now taking place.
With a .001% increase every year, the math classes we took obviously didn't leave a trace(from p. 42 "This is the way:")
God's voice keeps on calling: O walk in the way,
THe way that Jehovah has shown us today
he has a fine channel that's surely unique
Can you guess what that channel is?
If you didn't guess Jehovah's Witnesses, surely you are a freak!(from p. 174 "Stay awake, stand firm grow mighty):
Stay awake stand firm grow mighty
In the warfare that is right.
Carry on as men undaunted
For the victry is in sight.
DOn't these songs all sound so different?
WEll, okay, no they don't!
So you'll continue singing
These bland songs every meeting
Until you find you won't.Okay, I wasn't great, but I sure gave it hell!
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Been "worldly" for 4 months now
by themonster123 inwell, i left around january or february, and it's been about 3 months or so experiencing "worldly" living.
i gotta say...it's been an interesting and uncomfortable transition, to say the least.
i would just like to update everyone on how i'm doing, and share some of my worldly experiences, as well.
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Well, I left around January or February, and it's been about 3 months or so experiencing "worldly" living. I gotta say...it's been an interesting and uncomfortable transition, to say the least. I would just like to update everyone on how I'm doing, and share some of my worldly experiences, as well.
Well, obviously, I'm not hanging out with ANy witness friends-i lost my whole social base of friends, so I gotta start clean. But...it's hard to just go out there and "make friends." I've been hanging out w/ some ex-witness friends (like one or two) and one friend from high school. Last night, I went out to a bar/arcade type place and I met some new people. I met this one guy who was NOT a good guy. The stuff he was saying was pretty much shocking. He was talking about how much he loved money and would do anything for it. He was saying he didn't care if he had to kill for money, or if the products he helped sell (ie: bombs) killed people-he'd still do it b/c he doesn't consider himself 'responsible.' He went on and on about how everyone has a price in life and according to his morals, it's not wrong. Then I said of course killing people for money is wrong, and he's like 'well, only according to YOUR morals-and that's YOUR price, not mine." Basically, I felt like I was looking into the eyes of a cold-blooded killer, whether he's done the deed or not. j
In other experiences...I met a nice guy who I dated for a month. I haven't had a boyfriend for 3 years, so I really want one, so I got involved w/ this guy. 2 weeks after we dated and were having a great time together, I mentioned how we should be boyfriend/girlfriend (this is about 3 instances AFTER us getting hot and heavy)- when I said that, he sat up, stared at me like WTF and was shocked -simply *shocked* *shocked* I could POSSIBLY want to be his girlfriend after 2 weeks of doing, well, the hibbidy, dibbidy. I think if you're intimate w/ someone, you should generally call them your gf or bf!!! FOr God's sakes....so he told me he wasn't "looking for a serious relationship." (I can't people "date" and still consider themselves single.). I guess worldly people are okay w/ dating MULTIPLE people at a time. So that was a big confusing mess to me, and I recently broke it off realizing he's a nice guy, but is not wanting a girlfriend and will casually string me along.
In the "world" dating is so F**** d up!!! It's like dating and relationships GO Together, or so I thought.
That whole thing was a TRaNSTION for me, like I said.
I rememember one night me and him got some drinks and when my drink came, I just dove right in. He looked at me like "Hellooo?" He's like "Aren't you gonna toast before you drink it!?" (I'M AN EX-WITNESS DUDE!! I didn't go into the whole story of how toasting was considered DEMONIzeD in my old religion!!!).
Other than that, there's a lot more swearing out there and general immorality. I seriously can't believe how immoral everyone is. It's been hard, really hard lately. It's exciting to be my own woman and realizing that the whole being a Witness thing was NOT TRUE and now my LIfe is open to live and seriously pursue my passions-so many doors have been opened, but at the same time I feel....
like there's a hole in my heart. I feel a shallowness that fills me-there's not that deep warmth and purpose and strong core I felt as a Witness when everything had an answer and it was all a matter of time till we're in Paradise.
I don't know-there have been so many things going on now-it's been fun, but scary and hard as well. My brother said it will take a good year before I fully adjust as a "worldly person."
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How Much Influence Did The Watchtower Have In Destroying Your Faith In God?
by The wanderer in<!-- .style1 { font-family: arial; font-size: 18px; color: #0000cc; } .style2 { font-family: arial; font-size: 16px; color: #0000cc; } .style3 { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; } --> how much influence did the watchtower have in destroying your faith in god?personally, i do not believe that a corrupt organization should destroy the belief .
or concept of a designer, god or creator.
in addition, because an organization .
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If there was a God, why would he make himself so hard to be found? That is to say He even wants us to find him. We're human, so we think like humans-so we think if there's a God there, why even SAY he can be found-it's already a done deal that we know HE WANTS us to find him. But...what if He doesn't think like humans? I've often thought in the dark recesses of my mind that if there is a God, maybe he's NOT like humans. Maybe we AREn'T made in "GOd's image." Maybe he's just sitting up there watching all this mess and kind of enjoying it, like it's entertaining for him.
I don'tknow!! It's late, too late. I must get sleep now. God and 2:40 a.m. in the morning don't mix.
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Ever notice how interested worldly friends were to hear you'd left...zzzzzz
by Gregor inthe first few years after i got my head out of my jw ass i assumed that worldly associates would be fascinated to hear of my escape....wrong.
most of them looked at me like "what the f--- are you talking about?"...
"who cares?
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well said sass my frass, verrryyy well-said!