A person has to do what he has to do. In my case I do go with my wife to the meetings. Been doing it for a few years even after I mentally removed myself. I use the WTC bull, I'm in the world but not a part of it. I am able to occupy myself with other things. Occasionaly I catch a point and write it down for my wife, for instance when a scripture does not have anything to do with what is being said. Over time I have been able to make some headway with my wife. Believe me, at first it was hard, because sometimes I wanted to just stand up and scream , "that is big bunch of crap." People who know me know that I can be very outspoken at times, which has made my life difficult more than I can count. I had to get a lot older before I realize you can talk to people better if you don't tick them off. Took me along time to realize my wife won't talk to me when she is ticked off at me. I never claimed to be overly smart. Patience was never one of my virtues, but age is taking care of that. As far as field service, I just put my time in for talking to my wife. I have been doing this for years now, and have not had any problems. One good thing is occasionaly I am able to make a comment at the bookstudy . For instance the Society not knowing whether the Alpha and Omega is either Jesus or Jehovah in the Revelation book, got a big kick out of that. Even quoted other publications with the same problem. It got so quite I thought everyone died of a heartattack.
Posts by logic
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25AN EXAMPLE OF HOW J.W.'S PLAY THE "GUILT CARD"
by Warlock inthe world plays the "race card".
jw's play the "guilt card".. my wife gets up this morning, with great difficulty i might add, and starts getting ready to go to the meeting.
that's fine with me, and i don't mind taking her.
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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND JADE JEWELRY
by HappyDad ini had to listen to jw craziness starting in 1960 when my mother started studying.
recently, i was reading paul and pat blizard's website and came across "101 strange beliefs and practices of jehovah's witnesses".
granted.......some of these beliefs have gone by the wayside because of bud light.... i mean new light!
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logic
Whether JWS realize it or not, they are superstious. Superstition is the a belief or beliefs justified by neither evidence or reason nor by any religious canon. In the sixties , literature came out about demon possesion etc., and of course JWS made an even bigger deal out it. They would not shop in secondhand stores, would not take items from some individuals, including fellow JWS. Some thought their homes were haunted and so on. It was the craziest thing I had seen. An example of this was my brother and sister in law. They thought their house was haunted and kept comming over to my house bothering me. Finally I borrowed their key, went into their attic an found a piece of wood that was blowing back and forth from the wind blowing through their attic vent. This kind of bull was common among the JWS I knew. The society uses everything they can to get people in this mindset. That is why you can't reason with them, they think you are posessed, go figure.
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My latest JW experience.
by Abandoned ini was assigned the dining room this morning at work and i had a jw at the first booth.
i recognized her by her bible made larger because of the included reasoning book.
i got a kick out of recognizing her in this way.
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logic
Actually "field service" is a good thing when you think about it. You tick off thousands of people at thier door for maybe one who might listen to you. I did this crap for nearly 50 years. It was basically the only way JWS get any human association, you know the coffee breaks and gossip etc. I always told everybody that I hated field service and meetings and assemblies. They would just feel sorry for me and never said much of anything else, and I am still around "physically". For those who want to go to meetings etc. for sake of family or whatever, just stay under the radar and dont cause any problems for the rest of the dummies. Dont ask for any of their help. Put down an hour every month for your time report. You should be able to do this, because it is theocratic warfare on your part. Some people need to stay in touch with what is going on inside. Eventually you may be able to give the actual truth to someone. As far as myself , no one wants to bother with me , I set at the hall with my wife and either read my Kings James bible, sleep, draw or use the time for rest. My wife does not have to go alone, it makes her happy, and I am able to make a few points along the way.
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Is the WTS saying Armageddon is 'delaying' - Matt 24:45-47?
by yaddayadda inyes, it appears they are.
there seems to be a trend lately for the watchtower society to increasingly refer to habakkuk 2:3 and indicate that we are now in a period of 'delay' before armageddon.
for the vision is yet for the appointed time, and it keeps panting on to the end, and it will not tell a lie.
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I Think a lot of the delaying thing comes from individual JWS. We even went through a period of many commenting as such at the meetings. Thier reasoning was that Jehovah was delaying so as to alow more righteous people to come into the truth. Of course the bible says the end would delay not or something to that effect. The society even says it would not delay. As i told my wife , if Jehovah was delaying to alow more to come into the truth, then the end would never come, because you could keep bringing more in. It is typical of JWS reasoning , which of course isn't.
I think they may have got the idea from the "keep on the watch brochure" quote "Gods temporary permission of hardship has allowed time for others to embrace the truth" and "He will end wickedness at the time that is best for the settling of the issues forever...." The society being ambiguous as usual.
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The Whole WTS is a corrupt bunch of lying false prophets!!
by cultswatter inthis topic has been talked about before but it is worth mentioning again.
the revelation grand climax book is currently being studied ar the book studies world wide (4th time) usually on tuesday nights.
at the book study the jws are force fed false doctrine by the wts evil slave class.
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logic
I agree with the seven trumpet thing also. I always thought that it was the nuttiest thing i had heard. I downloaded a perpetual calendar and tried to match up the dates with the days thing, i could not get anything to come out to match. Some others in the net have tried it also. and they couldn't either. Maybe someone has but I cant find any. Tried to show this to some JWS but got no where.
Maybe some of you out there have had some luck with getting through to JWS , but they remind me of an ostrich with his head in the sand, he feels safe as long as he can't hear or see anything. The only way to get his head out is to kick him the butt, and then he is just gets mad.
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hidden picture?
by logic ingot this on the wrong page .
found this from a blogger named ellies foe.
she said to mirror the image on pg 29 of watchtower jan 1, 07. could not find her picture if any.
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Got this on the wrong page . Trying again. Found this from a blogger named Ellies Foe. She said to mirror the image on pg 29 of Watchtower Jan 1, 07. Could not find her picture if any. So i did what she said to do and here it is. For those of you who are interested.
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When is the Special Talk?
by tinker inmy son invited me but i lost the email.
he is giving the talk...yikes!.
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I think the special talk is like when on T.V. they say they have a special episode, or special time for an episode just means it is a repeat.
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WT NEW LIGHT
by logic innew light hidden under basket?
put new light in questions from readers...... watchtower may 1, 07.....questions from readers... when does the calling of christians to heavenly hope cease?.....this article does with away with the harvesting of the 144,ooo ending in 1935 that the society has more than insinuated for years.
now they have left it open ended, same as a generation.
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Brigido, go to the 3rd post above you, by Neo and click on "did the heavenly call..etc" there is another link on one of the posts there. Hope that works for you.
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WT NEW LIGHT
by logic innew light hidden under basket?
put new light in questions from readers...... watchtower may 1, 07.....questions from readers... when does the calling of christians to heavenly hope cease?.....this article does with away with the harvesting of the 144,ooo ending in 1935 that the society has more than insinuated for years.
now they have left it open ended, same as a generation.
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MULAN... SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS ... BUT IT IS AN OLD HABIT FROM WORKING AT WESTERN UNION TELEGRAPH FOR MANY YEARS , THEY TYPE EVERYTHING IN CAPS . TYPEWRITERS DID NOT HAVE LOWER CASE AND NUMBERS IN DIFFERENT LOCATION. IT WAS CONSIDERE MORE EFFICIENT AND EXPEDIANT. OLD HABITS ARE HARD TO BREAK. MAYBE I WILL TRY HOW IS THAT....?
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WT NEW LIGHT
by logic innew light hidden under basket?
put new light in questions from readers...... watchtower may 1, 07.....questions from readers... when does the calling of christians to heavenly hope cease?.....this article does with away with the harvesting of the 144,ooo ending in 1935 that the society has more than insinuated for years.
now they have left it open ended, same as a generation.
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NEW LIGHT HIDDEN UNDER BASKET? PUT NEW LIGHT IN QUESTIONS FROM READERS...... WATCHTOWER MAY 1, 07.....QUESTIONS FROM READERS... WHEN DOES THE CALLING OF CHRISTIANS TO HEAVENLY HOPE CEASE?.....THIS ARTICLE DOES WITH AWAY WITH THE HARVESTING OF THE 144,OOO ENDING IN 1935 THAT THE SOCIETY HAS MORE THAN INSINUATED FOR YEARS. NOW THEY HAVE LEFT IT OPEN ENDED, SAME AS A GENERATION. NEXT THEY JUST HAVE TO DO AWAY WITH 1914... THEY ARE PROBABLY REALLY WORKING ON THAT ONE . ANOTHER POINT THROWN IN , THE NEW ANOINTED ARE ABOVE THE ELDERS, NOW AINT THAT A HOOT. AND THEY DONT HAVE ANY MORE HOLY SPIRIT THAN ANYONE ELSE.... AND WE SHOULD NOT JUDGE ANYONE WHO THINKS HE IS OF THE ANNOINTED. I DONT KNOW HOW THEY CAN GET ANY MORE GOOFY THAN THIS ONE. NOT TO MENTION THAT ALL THE SCRIPTURES DO NOT FIT ANYTHING THEY SAY.... I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT THIS ONE BUT I WILL CUT SHORT.....