Posts by Body

body and wt have created some sort of seperation in an effort to make it more difficult to place blame and responsibility with all the child abuse cases.

a legal roadblock if you will.

In a move that is more likely to attract attention for legal reasons than anything else, the Watchtower has made a massive reorganization of its corporate leadership. While this does not seem to affect current responsibilities such as their actual daily work, it clearly is meant to provide isolation of guilt to as few entities as possible in the litigious days ahead for the Watchtower organization. Here is their press release. Below are some notes from the Annual Meeting.

http://www.watchtowernews.org/reorganization.htm

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Letters on the body of elders

by Body in

i have had a computer crash.

i lost all my data from the wt.

is it possible to post "all letters from the watchtower to the body of elders" 105 mb (boe letters from 1971 to 2001), thx.

Body

Oh yeah, I have taken a backup with "Acronis thrue Image 10", but he doens't work. I get the message error: "w00040011 Please insert the media marked 'volume 1'". Press retry when ready or press cancel to cancel the operation and stop.

Is there someone who can help me? Thx

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Letters on the body of elders

by Body in

i have had a computer crash.

i lost all my data from the wt.

is it possible to post "all letters from the watchtower to the body of elders" 105 mb (boe letters from 1971 to 2001), thx.

Body

I have had a computer crash. I lost all my data from the WT. Is It possible to post "all letters from the Watchtower to the body of elders" 105 mb (BOE letters from 1971 to 2001), Thx. Also brochures, books are welcom, e.g. Mystery book the two versions.

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The Borg's Current Take On The King of the North

by Rapunzel in

reading aleman's intelligent and erudite posts in regard to prophecies and other things biblical got me to thinking and prompted me to ask the following question - just what is the watchtower bible and tract society's current [as of this month, february 2008] interpretation on the identity of the wicked witch king of the north?

when i was in - many moons ago in the late 1970's - the king of the north was depicted, if my memory serves me correctly, as the soviet union.

but as the expression goes, s*** happens.

Body

Hoi,

Robert King says the King of the North is the VN. You can read it in his essay.

http://e-watchman.com/essays/king-of-the-north.html

http://e-watchman.com/essays/judgment-day-last-hour-eighth-king.html

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What prompted the whopper of all Flip Flops? (Sodom & G. resurrection)

by Open mind in

in pre-studying my watchtower for this sunday, (with mary's assistance on v's thread of course), i was reminded of something i've wondered about re: the whole "will the residents of sodom & gomorrah be resurrected?

" question.. to my knowledge, this one holds the watchtower record for most number of flip-flops.

please correct me if i'm wrong.

Body

Hi potentialJWconvertswife

This is the point of view of Jehovah's witnesses. Look what the "insight boek" says.

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it-2pp.792-793Resurrection***

Resurrection

During1,000Years. A very liberal estimate of the number of persons that have ever lived on earth is 20 billion (20,000,000,000). Many students of the subject calculate that not nearly so many have lived. Not all of these, as it has been shown in the foregoing discussion, will receive a resurrection, but even assuming that they did, there would be no problem as to living space and food for them. The land surface of the earth at present is about 148,000,000 sq km (57,000,000 sq mi), or about 14,800,000,000 ha (36,500,000,000 acres). Even allowing half of that to be set aside for other uses, there would be more than a third of a hectare (almost 1 acre) for each person. As to earth’s potential food production, a third of a hectare will actually provide much more than enough food for one person, especially when, as God has demonstrated in the case of the nation of Israel, there is abundance of food as a result of God’s blessing.—1Ki 4:20; Eze 34:27.

On the question of the earth’s food-producing power, the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization maintains that, with only moderate improvements in agricultural methods, in even the developing areas the earth could easily feed up to nine times the population that scientists have estimated for the year 2000.—Land,FoodandPeople, Rome, 1984, pp. 16, 17.

How, though, could the thousands of millions be adequately cared for, in view of the fact that most of them did not in the past know God and must learn to conform to his laws for them? First, the Bible states that the kingdom of the world becomes "the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he [rules] as king forever and ever." (Re 11:15) And the Bible principle is that "when there are judgments from you [Jehovah] for the earth, righteousness is what the inhabitants of the productive land will certainly learn." (Isa 26:9) In his due time, when it is necessary to make it known to his servants, God will reveal how he purposes to take care of this work.—Am 3:7.

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Finished Mystery different versions

by Body in

jw
friends

hi,.

where can i find the two different versions of the book "finished mystery" ?.

Body

Hi,

***jvchap.29pp.653-654"ObjectsofHatredbyAlltheNations"*** The decision was immediately appealed to the U.S. circuit court of appeals. But bail pending the hearing of that appeal was arbitrarily refused by Judge Howe, and on July 4, before a third and final appeal for bail could be heard, the first seven brothers were hastily moved to the federal penitentiary in Atlanta, Georgia. Thereafter, it was demonstrated that there were 130 procedural errors in that highly prejudiced trial. Months of work went into the preparation of required papers for an appeal hearing. Meanwhile, the war ended. On February 19, 1919, the eight brothers in prison sent an appeal for executive clemency to Woodrow Wilson, the president of the United States. Other letters urging the release of the brothers were sent by numerous citizens to the newly appointed attorney general. Then, on March 1, 1919, in reply to an inquiry from the attorney general, Judge Howe recommended "immediate commutation" of the sentences. While this would have reduced the sentences, it would also have had the effect of affirming the guilt of the defendants. Before this could be done, the attorneys for the brothers had a court order served on the U.S. attorney that brought the case before the appeals court.

Nine months after Rutherford and his associates were sentenced—and with the war past—on March 21, 1919, the appeals court ordered bail for all eight defendants, and on March 26, they were released in Brooklyn on bail of $10,000 each. On May 14, 1919, the U.S. circuit court of appeals in New York ruled: "The defendants in this case did not have the temperate and impartial trial to which they were entitled, and for that reason the judgment is reversed." The case was remanded for a new trial. However, on May 5, 1920, after the defendants had appeared in court, on call, fivetimes, the government’s attorney, in open court in Brooklyn, announced withdrawal of the prosecution. Why? As revealed in correspondence preserved in the U.S. National Archives, the Department of Justice feared that if the issues were presented to an unbiased jury, with the war hysteria gone, the case would be lost. U.S. attorney L. W. Ross stated in a letter to the attorney general: "It would be better, I think, for our relations with the public, if we should on our own initiative" state that the case would be pressed no further.

On the same day, May 5, 1920, the alternate indictment that had been filed in May 1918 against J. F. Rutherford and four of his associates was also dismissed.

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w875/1pp.26-27LookingBackOver93YearsofLiving*** "TheFinishedMystery"

On Tuesday, October 31, 1916, Charles Taze Russell died, without having produced the seventh volume to his series of StudiesintheScriptures. When on his deathbed, aboard a train returning from California, he was asked by his secretary about the seventh volume, he replied: "Someone else will have to write that."

In the following year, 1917, the seventh volume did appear as a commentary on the prophetic books of Ezekiel and Revelation, together with a lovely explanation of the Bible book The Song of Solomon. The Society planned a tremendous circulation of the new book. Accordingly, they sent cartons of this seventh volume to certain ones in the congregations throughout the United States. Many cartons were sent to my home at 1810 Baymiller Street, Cincinnati, Ohio, and stored while we awaited further instructions as to how the contents were to be distributed.

There were eight pages of TheFinishedMystery that contained quotations of what prominent figures had adversely declared regarding warfare. Under incitement by the religious organizations of Christendom, Catholic and Protestant, the United States government raised objections, so pages 247-54 were cut out. Thereafter, when TheFinishedMystery was offered to the people, an explanation was made to them as to why these pages were missing. The United States government did not remain satisfied with this move, and under further incitement by the religious organizations of the land, it banned the entire seventh volume of StudiesintheScriptures.

I recall that on one Sunday morning I was working at the rear door of our house. Men came walking down the walkway alongside the house, and the leader pulled back his coat lapel, showed me his metallic badge and demanded entrance into the house. So I was obliged to take them inside and show them the cartons containing copies of TheFinishedMystery. After a few days, they sent a truck and took them all away.

Later we learned that Joseph F. Rutherford, the Watch Tower Society’s second president, and six of his associates serving at the Brooklyn headquarters were erroneously convicted of interfering with the war effort of the United States. They were sentenced to serve 20 years at the Atlanta Federal Penitentiary on each of four counts, the sentences, however, to run concurrently. The war ended on November 11, 1918, and then on March 25, 1919, Brother Rutherford and his associates were released on bail. They were later completely exonerated. The book TheFinishedMystery was also removed from under ban and authorized to be circulated freely once again.

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yb75p.119Part2—UnitedStatesofAmerica*** After their trialsome period of 1917-1919, Jehovah’s people subjected themselves to scrutiny. Realizing that they had acted in ways that did not meet with God’s approval, they sought forgiveness in prayer repenting of their former course. This led to Jehovah’s forgiveness and blessing.—Prov. 28:13.

One compromise had been the cutting of pages from TheFinishedMystery, this to please those who had assumed the position of censor.

These are all Watch tower quotes (Watchtower Library 2007). Is this the right point of view ? The underline text has my special attention.

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