I read a few post here in which people said they were looked down on for HAVING money. In the hall I grew up in, it was completely opposite! The elders were always kissing up to anyone who had (or seemed to have) any kind of material wealth. What was interesting is that my family lived very modestly despite having the means to drive flashy cars and wear flashy clothes. Because of this, we were always lumped in with the POOR people and treated like crap by the elders and pioneers.
jelcat8224
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Were You Looked Down In The Hall Because Of Age, Gender, Race, $$$, Etc????
by minimus inwere you discriminated against for any reason in the "christian congregation"?
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Christians could and did. Can JWs? Do they?
by ANewLeif inthere are many things the bible says christians could do and things the bible describes christians doing that, according to their doctrine, jws can't do.. christians could talk directly to jesus.
(acts 7:54-60; acts 9:3-16) can you?
christians could decide for themselves which days they chose to observe without any fear of religious retribution.
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Who did Jesus put the focus on over and over and over again? Who did Jesus say he got EVERYTHING from..all that he taught...all authority...evertyhing. He got it from his Heavenly Father Yahweh/Jehovah.
Your list is completely selective. We could add a lot of things that most Christians do not do that is a major departure from scripture, eg:
Do most Christians worship the Father like Jesus did, or do they almost exclusively worship Jesus?
Did Jesus instruct his disciples to pray to anyone other than the Father?yaddayadda: Very well said!
They do not come in the name of Christ Jesus, they are not persecuted in the name of Jesus, they do not endure in the name of Jesus, they do not call on the name of Jesus to be saved, they do not request that Lord Jesus receive their spirit, they do all these in the name of Jehovah.
ANewLeif: It seems your real issue with JW's is that they worship the Creator and not the creat-ED. I could be wrong though.
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ANYTHING EXCITING EVER HAPPEN AT YOUR KINGDOM HALL?
by anewme indid anything exciting or alarming ever happen at your hall?
i remember only funny incidents, like one brother getting up there with his zipper down.
(i knew alot of brothers after that felt no shame to actually check down there before going up on the podium!
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The most alarming thing I ever remember was one night during the meeting a sister jumped up with her toddler son screaming, "HE'S CHOKING ... HE'S CHOKING!!!"
She picked him up and ran towards the coat room screaming for someone to help the whole time ... three or four brothers jumped up and went running after her to help the young boy.
Needless to say, that pretty much brought the entire meeting to a screaching halt as everyone sat there straring at the open door waiting for someone to come back in and tell us if the boy was ok. (he was)
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Thanks to all of you!
by emilyblue ini want to thank all of you for your words of wisdom and support during my breakup with my jw ex-boyfriend.
i honestly don't know how i would have handled the last few weeks without having this forum.
i had reached the point where i had no where else to turn.
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I am so happy for you! Stay true to yourself and you'll be fine! Good luck hun!
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Was There Something That Ever Bothered U About The "Truth" While U Were In?
by minimus inwhen i used to read the prophecies of revelation and see the society's interpetation i often thought to myself, "how could this be"?
i shelved a lot of things, hoping that maybe i'd understand over time or the "light would get brighter".. as an elder, i used to wonder how they (the society) could tell the elders one thing and put into print another thing.
while the rank and file were being told at the watchtower studies how the elders were to not judge unfairly at judicial committees, the elders were told to be safe rather than sorry when it came to "removing the wicked man from our midst".
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HIPOCRACY HIPOCRACY HIPOCRACY!
Every time I looked around there was another example of it! One elder in particular for example: Would spin out of the KH after the meetings, do doughnuts in the parkinglot, start snow ball fights, drag race other brothers down the road as they left the meeting, etc. Then one time he saw a brother spin out of a local restaurant and hauled him in to an elders meeting, took away his "priveledges", and emphasised how important it is for us to ALWAYS represent Jehovah! This stuff happened ALL the time!
JUDGEMENT! I always felt it was wrong for any man (no matter how spiritual) to judge another, and I never understood how they justified this. I always was nice to DF'd people even though I wasn't supposed to talk to them, because I never really felt they deserved it.
BACKSTABBING! When you are in an org. like the WTS, you are told that everyone in the org with you is your true friend! How false this is. Truth be told, every 'friend' I ever had was merely my friend because they felt obligated to be my friend, and did not hesitate one second when they thought they could throw me under the bus. When all my so-called friends started betraying me and slandering me I just knew these people were NOT my true friends! I feel much better now that I can make friends with people who want to be my friends and are not so just because they share a common 'faith'.
There is just so much that I always pushed into the back of my mind because I didn't know there was anywhere else I could turn to! Thank God I found my way out!
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HELP with baby boy names! Contest!
by Jez inwe are having a boy and can't decide on names.
we want something a little different, not in 'the top 10'.
it also has to be english or german orgin.
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oooh ... that's a good one nvrgnbk! One of my fav's.
I also forgot to mention Gabriel! I think it's a pretty cool name!
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Words Jehovers Witnesses Pronounce wrong...
by vomit injehover being the most obvious.
why was there a group in every hall that pronounced some words like a bad english accent.
also why is it pretty universal, i.e.
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There was a big debate a few years back in my old cong. over PHIL-is-tines vs. phi-LIS-tines ... I don't remember which was right (i don't really care)
Similar to Justitia: I replied to a neighbor the other day by saying "I am well" ... He said, "Wow, you don't hear that very often anymore!" It's sad what has become of the english language!
I always hated hearing Jehover ... There was a sister in my hall who would say it that way but any word that was SUPPOSED to end with an '-er' sound she would end with the '-ah' sound! I just don't understand!
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List What Things Jehovah's Witnesses Are NOT
by minimus inhere's a few-------jws are not "the happiest people on earth".
they are not the "most educated people on earth" in spite of their enrollment in the theocratic ministry school.. witnesses are not the best neighbors because they won't involve themselves with you unless they can preach to you.. .
any others to make up the list??
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NOT reasonable
NOT the 'ones with the truth'
NOT 'God's chosen organization' or His 'sole channel of communication'
NOT loving their neighbor (they don't even love their 'brothers')
NOT respectful of others
NOT doing God's will
I agree the list could go on and on ... it is sad though that there are some people stuck in this org. who are truly sincere and loving people who think they are doing what God wants. Sometimes it breaks my heart and then I get even angrier that this org. is screwing with so many people!
NOT feeding their followers spiritual food. Instead they are shoving WT food down their throats!
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HELP with baby boy names! Contest!
by Jez inwe are having a boy and can't decide on names.
we want something a little different, not in 'the top 10'.
it also has to be english or german orgin.
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Boy names are the hardest I think but here are a few boy names I like:
Brett Cole Rafe Barrett
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Were you a "Born-In", or were you "Converted"?
by Warlock ini was converted in the early 1980's.. warlock .
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Raised in : Mom was introduced when I was eight around 1990. Mom and I are the only ones who got baptized. Dad and two younger siblings (as well as an older sibling) not baptized. Hoping to keep it that way.