Perry,
When you order water do you pi$$ ego?
on what basis did god so love the world?.
the world of mankind had been condemned to death by god's curse in eden!.
god viewed mankind as "dust on the scales".
Perry,
When you order water do you pi$$ ego?
i'm not trying to pick a fight i was just sitting at my desk pondering on some threads on jwd and i would very much like this question answered.. why is it that athiest often (not always) direct their argument for athiesism towards christians?
why not direct your argument towards buddists or muslims or even new-agers?
i mean they also believe in a higher power so why is it that only christains seem to get knocked?
Apatheism is how I feel!
But like all belief it is work in progress whether without effort or with effort!
And my progress is from Bible based mutations to pantheistic and atheistic evolutions which resulted in an amalgamic cosmic aura of scientific divinity through all life forms and inate matter which I am moderately sedated in the depression of!
The depression is the residue of past imagined realities I now see as deluded belief and lifestyles coupled with my being derailed from my future having nothing to declare and take on my flight into the life ahead.
A feeling of nothing to offer and nothing to go to!
So apatheism is a place I know in each passing minute - though I would prefer it to be otherwise - one cannot be a tree if one is a chair leg!
everyone was always being told, "do more" and you'll feel better!
if you're depressed, simply do more!
if your life trying to be a good jw was getting to you, you were admonished to stop thinking about your problems and just do more!
BrownHilda - you are so right!
I'm sure the farming community knew I was a JW and took loads of $hit!
I once rang and asked for some horse manure and he quoted £12 for a trailer which I thought reasonable - maybe half a ton I thought!
Well he came early one Sunday morning and tipped a 12 ton trailer load next to my house in the row!
It took 3 years to spread it around and yes I did think it was value for money! In fact I started to prefer shifting it to going to the KH!
Just shows the JW mindset suffers fertiliser treatment syndrome thinking maybe there will be a nice harvest in the next life!
on the weekend, my jw wife and i were invited to her sister's home for dinner, to celebrate my wife's daughter's reinstatement.
shortly before the meal, my sil informed me that her family always says a prayer before the meal.
here's the thing...she asked me if i would be offended!
Also you have the supplication in prayer to the male mularkey going on!
everyone was always being told, "do more" and you'll feel better!
if you're depressed, simply do more!
if your life trying to be a good jw was getting to you, you were admonished to stop thinking about your problems and just do more!
This sums up my life experience!!
The deep inner feeling! Profoundly seated in ones core soul!
The all giving, all rejection, not good enough aura by ones closest to you or those you did it for!
And yes it does make you feel much worse the more you give!
So the Bible aint necessarily my favoured ethos for giving being all it's cracked up to be!
It's awful when surrounded by those questioning your motives for all the unconditional giving you have input into whatever circumstance you have been in!
It's why I could so easily walk out of humanity this second, (save distanced one/s I sense kin with but am terminally cut from) and wouldn't blink! Nobody else would either but that's besides the point!
I can only vaguely speculate that those humans who've gone even further, who repeatedly put their lives on the line and lost so much afterwards, have overwhelming feelings along those lines? And others have no clue and think somehow they had different motives or whateva!!
Oooo - core feeling!
on the weekend, my jw wife and i were invited to her sister's home for dinner, to celebrate my wife's daughter's reinstatement.
shortly before the meal, my sil informed me that her family always says a prayer before the meal.
here's the thing...she asked me if i would be offended!
Maybe the WT have given counsel about the scripture not questioning anothers table manners or whateva it was?
A good witness to worldlies!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24008903/.
australian man fathers child with daughter.....
Does he have an ark in the yard?
on what basis did god so love the world?.
the world of mankind had been condemned to death by god's curse in eden!.
god viewed mankind as "dust on the scales".
I thought my 'side-dish' a useful addition, but now we are straying by default - surely the meal wasn't that bland?
The whole prison mularkey is one one which punishes offenders brought up in a society due to its placing responsibility and expectation on one group of humans over another to an extent that it predisposses them to angst, stresses, conflicts and ultimate breakdowns respecting all the expectations placed upon them by said society - hence falling into veritable 'sin' 'crime' deviance' perversionas' or whatever you thesaurus!
The WTBTS should give those who've been through its chambers additional perspectives on the next level of what it feels like to be massively overburdened and expected of till one cant even think along what one essentially stands for as a human! Maybe females feel what many males feel in regular society as oppressive, whilst under WT controls?
And maybe you Terry, having experienced more layers of expectation to conformity to systems you perceive as flawed but which are intolerant of difference, have even more reason to offer perspective than most?
The idea that wrongdoers are slaves to their own wrongdoing indefinitely though, or even that they would still do it given another persons circumstances as a reality, is something very subjective IMO - as indeed is much of what constitutes human behaviour - to the extent that many feel a 'god son' an essential element in reform! If it helps establish a reality others find reassuring, I imagine it leaves some with few alternatives?
Whether it's to do with gods love I'm not altogether clear about!
as there has been some talk lately of a crackdown on obesity (in the form of the great boasting session), it might be time for a thread about how being one of jehovah's witlesses can lend one to becoming fat.. first, my personal situation.
when i was in college, i gained the 4x15 pounds that were supposed to be gained in college, and it was only my sophomore semester.
it was legitimately my fault.
The mindsapping WT renders inactivity in ones social - less life a guatanteed majority outcome! So it is an excellent observational reality Wiz!
i'm not trying to pick a fight i was just sitting at my desk pondering on some threads on jwd and i would very much like this question answered.. why is it that athiest often (not always) direct their argument for athiesism towards christians?
why not direct your argument towards buddists or muslims or even new-agers?
i mean they also believe in a higher power so why is it that only christains seem to get knocked?
Very karmaic!