Posts by R.Crusoe

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Is God just your "imaginary Friend?"

by Witness 007 in

when i had money problems i would pray to god for help.....i never got any envolopes with cash delivered to me anonomously.

{like some pioneers} ..unless i got off my butt and earned some cash my problem remained.....when i was sick i would pray to get well...but only the doctor was any real help.....so i ask you, is jehovah or god just your imaginary friend to stop you from feeling alone?

R.Crusoe

What concept of yourself reflects that god is in you?

The essential person that you are deep down is a life force that you can feel and connect to when you stop in a moment and tune into it.

But the mind has been trained to overtake it with all manner of knowledge. This knowledge gives you pain ( a depression or a feeling of oppression or some form of persecution by others). Each 'pain' becomes its own person within you, detached from the real you (in yur minds workings) but squashing the real you and preventing its emergence ( a pain body).

Also successes and ambitions will develop other personas within you forming egos.

If you can switch off the mind from all pain bodies and egos you will be with yourself for a while. You will be with the god in you. You will be in tune with all life in all things. You will feel part of the collective.

Your friend is within you. It is who you are and who will be around as your body dissolves (dies) as alive as when it first became aware of itself.

Where it goes to does not matter. Life is its own energy within all existence and you are a part of it.

Being more often aware of that in you and in others is the best you can hope to achieve. Being constantly aware of that is challenging for each of us.

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The Word

by R.Crusoe in

'in the beginning was the word.........'.

i ask myself if i understand what 'word' means in such a context?.

if i stand with a female in a room the silent stillness can become enchanting.. the same in a wood or anywhere in nature.. the word is in my being and temporarilly encased within my form (body) until this form dissolves and it moves onward.. the word is more than speech and essentially is not speech.

R.Crusoe

Hamilcar it is in part what you refer to. It is what I spotted in Wicca and panentheism(traced from ancient Earth based cultures and belief) and Buddhism coupled with 'The New Earth' debate via Oprah and Eckhart. At present I perceive there are no clearer perspectives on life within each human than through these collective eyes. And they seek to embrace all humanity with a search for ones origin and immortal life-force. Our bodies are a mere carrier of life for a flicker in the endlessness of time.

The inner sanctum of your soul speaks to life at times in ways that words can only attempt to emulate. That speak is the word I speak of. The formless and colourless and pure energy in all life.

Too much pain and ego is attached, like barnacles to a ships hull, to every individual in humanity. The pain of history. The pain of inequality. The quest for justice. The quest for revenge. The ambition for tomorrow at the ongoing expense of others. The losing of every second that passes preoccupied with the pull of the future. Our reluctances to be strong and live in submission to our inner self. Our repeated confusions about how to exist in a world obssessed by it and branding it 'normal'.

Our fighting and striving after such 'pain bodies' and 'egos' hold our lifes 'being' hostage. The god (too many connotations are wrapped around god that it's a bad choice of word- maybe 'essence' or 'being') within us is being bullied by anger, ambition, fear and embarassment on a wave of peer pressure to blend in with lthose around us or be crushed by them. How to be you and survive has never been so widely frought with difficulty for the masses.

We each are preoccupied with preventing ourselves from surfacing.

What colour is the being in each of us. I say it is the colour of life and is obscured by all manner of circumstantial pollution we each are born into.

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The Word

by R.Crusoe in

'in the beginning was the word.........'.

i ask myself if i understand what 'word' means in such a context?.

if i stand with a female in a room the silent stillness can become enchanting.. the same in a wood or anywhere in nature.. the word is in my being and temporarilly encased within my form (body) until this form dissolves and it moves onward.. the word is more than speech and essentially is not speech.

R.Crusoe

My irony is that I discovered the word!

And it was without The Bible.

In fact the Bible was a self violent and destructive ego of mine!

How sweet.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 5-18-08 WT Study (WISE)

by blondie in

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"who is wise and understanding among you?".

"who is wise and understanding among you?

let him show out of his fine conduct his works with a mildness that belongs to wisdom.".

R.Crusoe

I find some scripture inhibits the life within me. And so I use the power within to decipher that which is attuned to life.

The word within is far more alive than the word without and so it recognises it - if you allow it to. It is very simple = remove all conscious thought and just feel the moment and there lies your inner voice.

Never pressure yourself to see that which you cannot communicate with for it is from some other worthless and self-violence realm.

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What happened when Jesus didn't COME BACK QUICKLY? History shows...

by Terry in

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clearly people in the 1st century who were jews and christians obviously felt they were living in the last days.. they lived in the roman empire.

jewish apocalypticism influenced such thinking.

it was a time of foment, upheaval and insecurity.

R.Crusoe

It is the old,

'Do not put Jehovah your God to the test...' argument!

The,

'Do as you mother tells you and don't ask! argument!

Except the Biblical one is a lifetime achievement award.

I imagine many lived to a ripe old age 1900 years ago never once doubting the imminenece of Jesus arrival.

I'd like to see them come back just to see what they think of living a whole life, deluded by a framework of believe without questioning it!'

2000 years is a long time for billions not to ask any questions about the urgency of the last days everyone has lived through!

Are some of us still thinking that it was all divine expectation as a show of faith?

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The Word

by R.Crusoe in

'in the beginning was the word.........'.

i ask myself if i understand what 'word' means in such a context?.

if i stand with a female in a room the silent stillness can become enchanting.. the same in a wood or anywhere in nature.. the word is in my being and temporarilly encased within my form (body) until this form dissolves and it moves onward.. the word is more than speech and essentially is not speech.

R.Crusoe

'In the beginning was the word.........'

I ask myself if I understand what 'word' means in such a context?

If I stand with a female in a room the silent stillness can become enchanting.

The same in a wood or anywhere in nature.

The word is in my being and temporarilly encased within my form (body) until this form dissolves and it moves onward.

The word is more than speech and essentially is not speech. Speech is only a tool for the expression of that which is life in the same way my form is only a tool for the expression of life within.

The word of life is in all life and speaks without speech.

It does not even require literature to attain it!

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Diary of a thinking to return ex-Jw

by reniaa in

i thought long and hard about posting this but the mis-information on this site finally persuaded me, i already accept many may not accept what i say on face value and get their appologist pens ready for making sure no pro-witness propaganda slips through the net on this site but here goes....... i've been on this forum for a few months my first post was about how i was thinking of returning to jw's and at my sisters recommendation to look at this site for both sides of the story before taking that step.. i faded from jw's 10/11 years ago now i left my hubby at the time divorced him to going on to have more relationships and kids, i was definately given the impression after asking on this site and with what i read that if i tried to return i might face df or at least a jc but definately a couple of elders questioning me over what i've been upto these last few years - none of these have happened.

i talked with an old jw friend (yes i do have then and she never shunned me quite happily accepted an offer of coffee from me and my asking for a chat) i told her i was interested in going back and was very frank about what i done in the last 10 years but not sure how returning was done now, she quite happily said she go ask for me to find out.. result!

she came back this week and said "all i had to do was goto meetings again" and an offer of a study was there for me if i wanted it to explore the open doubts that i had expressed i now had.. not quite the fire and brimstone welcome this site led me to believe would happen.. i will keep you posted with further updates if i feel the need to put them in future.. .

R.Crusoe

Reniaa,

You seem to be pressuring yourself into having an organised religion to be part of.

If your inner self has an ego or pain body which needs an organised faith to feed its life force and overthrow the real inner you (which may be very neglected and uncertain of standing alone) then I see how you may be compelled to return to JWs which I also suspect you know is not the truth that you allow yourself to accept it as on returning.

What you feel is a common overpowering reaction to your life situation. Becoming aware of loneliness being acceptable to god - the god within you - and the seeming lack of 'life' being perfect, are things peculiar to your life experience. It's as if more should be happening and you're always searching for it. Always seeking something in the next day or weeks instead of the moment you are in being perfect and normal and the absolute intention of the cosmos. It is not revolutionary, but just like a flower, beauty and divinity are to be found in the silence and simplicity of existence.

There is no great adventure that you must discover. In fact it is within you as you rest in your armchair. It is within the child that you hold. What you seek is in your midst!

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Are Believers Truly Humble?

by serotonin_wraith in

if you are non religious, do you still feel those with religion show a higher level of humility than others in society?.

on the face of it, i feel most would answer in the affirmative.. but breaking it down, i find it harder and harder to accept.

in fact, i'd call it the opposite of humility.

R.Crusoe

Humility and arrogance are relative concepts often misread by those not having close bonds of understanding and/or communication.

It depends on the heart condition of the individual.

I recall feeling pain at the thought that many would not survive Armageddon and felt guilt at not being gifted to convert to a life saving belief.

I could not tolerate the noise in my head over this perpetual dilema of a belief I had been indoctrinated with. I spare no sympathy for those who gave it to me! Pure pain and inescapable! I can see how some become arrogant in order to relinquish themselves of the responsibility of converting masses to their belief - a sort of survival tactic for self sanity within a dogmatic cult.

Those who are truly arrogant are ones who absolutely believe themselves to be special and others to be lower classes of life. I find it tricky to know exactly who such ones are for I am unable to read hearts accurately.

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The dumpee or the dumper

by wings in

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this topic is about the end of a relationship.

i was reading in an old self help book on surviving divorce.

he put the survivors into the dumpee/dumper category,and then there were the mutuals that i know nothing about.

R.Crusoe

jnat, those who take pride in being the dumper are fuelled by ego and self servitude.

If they ever wake up maybe they will bump into their true selves at the heart of the life within them?

My feeling is that many relationships are more about confusion and difference becoming unworkable.

Those who are on a mission to selfish gain and reject others like used goods I hope are in the minority. I see that some may appear to do this and are misprepresented by gossiping onlookers who have no clue about their heart condition.

I place judging gossipers and those of selfish intenet in a similar category.

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Dispelling Watchtower Myths of RC Beliefs

by Amazing in

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over the last two years, as i moved back to the catholic church, i have been confronted with objections by several people regarding certain catholic teachings.

these concerns are almost always the same, and are founded in mythology created by the watchtower society, and some evangelical denominations.

god can and does use fallible men to do infallible things?

R.Crusoe

I can hardly believe that I believe what I believe in this moment!

I believe that a part of divinity is in all life forms but accompanied by distractions which seek to suppress it until the life form dies and the divinity in each passes onwards. The divinity cannot be destroyed but can become neglected and hurt - or enhanced and inspired.

It is for each of us to respect the divinity in life and help enhance that which is in each of us.

So I have an atheists view of a creator but a spiritual view of divinity. And the two feel like they are headed for a rendezvous which respects all life for what an amazing thing it is.