R.Crusoe

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  HOW LONG DO JWS BELIEVE ABORIGINES HAVE BEEN IN AUSTRALIA?

  by badboy in

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  it is reputed that aborigines have been in oz for about 60,000 years.. what do jws have to say about this?.

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  And I thought the math of the WT was indisputable?

  He who is faithful in small things (like this last century for example)....................
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  Philosophy and the blues.

  by Blueblades in

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  when one is suffering from "the blues" one is said to be sad and gloomy; depressed or depressing.

  can a study of philosophy bring on the blues?

  here is what i found.. metaphilosophy: the philosophy of philosophy.

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  Philosophy seems to me to be about explaining a negative collective of paradoxical realities!

  e.g.:

  I may think philosophy is about empathising with the philosophy of unhappiness to the unhappy in the hope that it will make them happy which of course it cannot, otherwise they would never have begun philosophising about it in the first place, saying as how they would be preoccupied with being happy!

  In this respect philosophy attempts to be a catalyst from one dynamic reality to another!
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  Did you secretly not want studies and rv's?

  by new light in

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  i remember going out in circus because it was what we did.

  the idea of having to conduct a study or being responsible for a return visit and, therefore, eternal state of existence, caused knots in the stomach and massive dread.

  actually having to commit to field circus long term with no hope of escape to save someone's life was a real downer.

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  After sincerely dowsing my soul in WT beliefs, and endeavoring to inculcate their whole essence within, I had started to pick up subliminal negatives which I wrote off as self doubt, satans tricks and pure coincidence till I was living a contradiction with my inner core! My head was forcing what my heart was in pain over!

  Which is what made me answer yes to the above question by default and not a reluctance to follow my beilefs! In fact it was my knowing I had been duped which put my inner self on guard againts deceiving others into the hell I was living within!
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  Knocking on the Doors of Classmates out in service

  by new light in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  could anything have been more embarrassing?

  you could be at the door of the least popular munger in school, but overwhelmed with envy because, hey, at least he was doing something normal.

  in 8th grade, at the peak of childhood self-consciousness, i knocked on the door of a super popular, rich, "in" kid from my class and he answered the door.

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  Yeah, and can you imagine now how you would feel if they knocked your door and your kids actually started listening to some of their spiel?

  And how you would feel knowing the child had been coaxed into going against their inner intuition and exposing themselves to peer group dysfunction?

  Sucks everywhich way dontya think!

  In fact why it sucks is because it sells the idea of giving up ones autonomy - everything it is to be who you are!

  And didn't you just feel it?

  It reminds me of how as an adult I would hate any idea of knocking a door of someone I knew from regular society! Like my life was a delusion to myself and that's the reality we got sold!
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  Why no dub buzz over the new generation change?

  by oompa in

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  2. friends

  or have i just missed it?

  i finally had to tell my active wife about it....the wt lesson is next week but she has not read it yet, and none of her friends have mentioned it to her.

  big buzz in 1995 when i was active, but hear very little except here now.

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  Because they already bought it!!

  Remember the VHS Betamax Fiasco? Get everyone on VHS and it becomes reality!

  And the Windows Apple mularkey? When your windows slows - should you have bpought the Apple? Ahem make do for now!!

  The WT has rooms full of such 'latest and best' sale tags!

  Now then - build a lifestyle based on a houseful of imaginary products designed for you and your family!

  One true god! Gods only Earthly slave class! Get you and yours into paradise! Annointed on Earth - meet them! World government soon to come! etc etc etc........

  Who is gonna dump their life at the refuse dump and start over after years down the line? - who can afford to?

  The WT is based on natural wasteage!!

  YOU!

  And hangers on who bought it will keep the sales going for a product that is already out there!

  Consumer religion!!

  And only the informed don't buy it!
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  My Mom quotes recent religion attrition rate survey AT me!!!!

  by inkling in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i am having a "conversation" with my mom about how .

  we are living during the end of the world and how close armageddon.

  is and whatnot, and in making her case she goes:.

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  The condition of humans reinforcing the ground on which they are standing is a common one!

  It's why we do what we do here!

  Each of our realities is all we have for now!

  Shifting locations is frought with fear and insecurity and ruin.

  And the WT keep buttressing their stance so it's frustrating to say the least!

  Maybe look for small escape routes to consider or pull an odd support which shows how divinity is not their 24hr security!
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  Do you change your mind easily?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as ex-jw's we've all cleary changed our minds about what 'the truth' is but do you think you could make another big change like that again?

  i honestly cannot see myself changing my mind about the non-existence of god and the supernatural - but hey, i was just as dogmatic in my jw days that those things were real!

  i guess anything is possible but it feels as though with every passing year my options for change are reduced.

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  Que Sera and go with your inner self!

  At least if you die by it you will die having chosen who you are rather than what someone else chose for you!

  I have nothing else to add!
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  Stay or leave your spouse after leaving JWs - Do you have regrets?

  by Awakened at Gilead in

  1. social
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  i am in a situation that many of you have faced... whether to stay with my spouse or not after having learned the falsehood of the org.. my wife is diehard witness who gets upset whenever i talk about the org negatively.

  she is not happy that i am on jwd... in fact the other day she picked up the keyboard and wanted to throw it accros the room or bash me with it when she saw i was on jwd... she is also very upset about me making friends with "apostates" and worldly people, and told me never to bring them to our home!

  this concerns me, since i am not going to have any friends in the org, and i need at least a few friendships...she doesn't want me to talk to the friends in the cong about my decision so that i don't share my doubts.

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  GB=lmao! Why take so long to explain yourself - get to it!

  Wings&Oomps are cool collectives dontya think?

  Interesting Danny stuff about successful unions being 'unreliant' on the WT! Now there's a conundrum!

  And Als right about when the fence is up! Boy do I recall when I was helping ex move after she chose the move instead of the stayhome cuz none of my 4 were keen on baptism! During the move (Christmastime)She wouldn't come near the house if I had any worldly stuff I was setting up = any cards and 4ft tree even though it was just to help me help her set up and still go to work each day! I was like a slave getting wupped for not having a magic wand that could make it happen in 5! Reminds me how I was in nearly 20 yrs never had a single friend round cuz I was so out of field I couldnt get back in the game for all the loose balls comin at me ! And my own mum&siblings steered well clear even though I had been 13yrs faded = how much of a leper JWs can be treated by 'worldlies' when some family are still at it!

  So much to consider and I wish you 'inner connection' in establishing what your future is to become!
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  WHEN DO JWS BELIEVE NATIVE AMERICANS CAME TO AMERICA?

  by badboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recent discoveries indicate native american were present from 14,300 years ago.. what do jws make of that?.

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  And which continents exactly did Christians go to saying,

  'We bring you Jesus, the prince of peace, I will make you fishers of men!'

  Or was that after the canonfire?
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  Why no dub buzz over the new generation change?

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  or have i just missed it?

  i finally had to tell my active wife about it....the wt lesson is next week but she has not read it yet, and none of her friends have mentioned it to her.

  big buzz in 1995 when i was active, but hear very little except here now.

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  Will someone kindly spell it out or post a link?