I just hope to Christ they don`t exist at all in ten years time.
OK the quiz ,
A .5
B. 4
C. 4
D . 5
smiddy
a. in 2026 in what state do you think the organization will be?.
) 9million + members.
) roughly the same amount of members as today (7-9 million)..
I just hope to Christ they don`t exist at all in ten years time.
OK the quiz ,
A .5
B. 4
C. 4
D . 5
smiddy
i tend to avoid the subject because it's too depressing, so i've probably missed lots of discussion about this issue.
but i read a comment on youtube yesterday that shocked me and made me wonder.
the person claimed that many years ago abusers in society generally identified jws as a safe haven for abusers and joined en masse order to exploit the situation.
blondie
Kudos to you and your husband for those experiences , as they say behind every good man there is a good woman.
smiddy
i tend to avoid the subject because it's too depressing, so i've probably missed lots of discussion about this issue.
but i read a comment on youtube yesterday that shocked me and made me wonder.
the person claimed that many years ago abusers in society generally identified jws as a safe haven for abusers and joined en masse order to exploit the situation.
talesin , and other interested folk ,
If I remember correctly , this point was brought up in the ARC as to the advisability of handling a JC in such a way , without concern for the victim , however I don`t think the practice was challenged from a legal perspective.
Only that it would cause more trauma to the victim .
SBF , have you looked at the videos or the transcripts of the ARC ? if not I recommend you do so , and anybody else who has not taken the time to look at them .
smiddy
smiddy
basically because they feel they are not being blessed.. this is not to say that all gb members feel this way.
the power hungry ones love getting the whip out.
the other members incorrectly look to the old testament for answers.. they are telling the sheep to be faithful, dedicated, self sacrificing, serving to the fullest, whole hearted and obedient.
You make a good point their SBF the organization has always blamed the rank and file for their failures
It has never been the fault of the governing body , always the lack of faith , or the lack of witnessing enough , or the lack of prayer , that Armageddon has not come yet .
It has always been the rank and files fault ,
The average Jehovah`s Witness , that spends there own time , money ,resources , to preach hours upon hours going from door to door a theology /interpretation of the Bible that keeps ever changing every few years
If the Almighty Jehovah God approved the Jehovah`s Witnesses /the IBSA as they were known in those days as his chosen people , why don`t they believe those same things today ?.
They don`t and nothing like it .
And if they are approved today for what they believe in , they couldn`t have been approved in 1919 for what they believed then .
The only alternative you can come to is it is just another American man made religion of the time , such as the Christadelphians ,Christian Scientist , Mormons ,(Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints ) Assembly of God , Seventh Day Adventists ,Bereoan Bible Students Association .2nd Adventists , Millerites , Exclusive Brethren , etc. etc. ,there were so many more.
And the Watchtower Society /Jehovah`s Witnesses have not proved to be any better than any of those mentioned in either morality as a group of people , or prophecy predictions.that have come to pass.
smiddy
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I must admit it is an interesting visual.....aid ?
smiddy
sorry but i really feel like i need to rant right now.
recently my dad was made an elder so my family has been doing a lot more "theocratic" activities lately.
every morning i wake up and put on my itchy dress and stupid makeup and heels and then pretend that i love what i'm doing and that everybody is my friend when in reality i feel horrible and all the other teenage girls at my hall hate me for some reason.
Blackwolf
Depending on how old you are , at a guess I would think mid-teens , you have your whole life ahead of you , learn to play the game .Do minimal "theocratic" activities as you can get away with ," female issues" are a good excuse , pursue your interests on the side if possible , either through the internet , the local Library ,etc.
But be prepared to face in the future if your parents did disown you simply because you wanted out of the religion , do they really "love" you ?,Do they have your interest at heart ? or are they just trying to save face in a corrupt organization ,that does not have your interest at heart.
If that is all you mean to them ,then maybe you are better off without them .This might sound harsh but I speak from experience .
My D.I.L. who is a wonderful woman , left the religion nearly twenty years ago , and her parents siblings will have nothing to do with her ( and they are not the ideal J.W.`s either I might add ) and in my view they don`t deserve her , it is their loss not hers.
I wish you all the best in whatever you decide to do .
smiddy
hello and thanks to everyone for participating on this forum it has really been of much value, for those of you that post here know that your words are not lost you never know who is reading your expressions, lives are being changed and nonsense challenged.
i’m not much of a writer so excuse my untrained writing style and grammar but i want to share my story to help anyone who is visiting here to see that we are real people, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters who have come here for answers, there is no agenda, just searching for truth.
i hope my story will help others as so many here have helped me..
Welcome MOC , I enjoyed your OP and look forward to hearing more ,Those Elders appearing at your door while writing here , could have been sent by Satan , not Jah .LOL
smiddy
If God ,Jehovah ,Yahweh , or whatever YOU want to call him , doesn`t / hasn`t identified which Bible version , translation you should be using after 2000 years , shouldn~t you be concerned ?
Different Bible Translations do give different interpretations to certain texts .
Different Bible Translations also have different books
Some books are regarded by one religion as Apochrypha but not by another religion
Some Christian Religions have different books than other christian religions,
We are now over 2000 years since the last books of the Bible were written and this debate is still going on ?
Where in the world is the GOD of the Bible been these past 2000 years ?, He certainly has not been here .
smiddy
it embarrassed me.
when i was young my folks made me wear one and i opened it up and took the paper out making it look like it fell out.
after my folks ask what happen i said i dont know.
Not only did I wear a badge as my wife and children did , but before the international Convention in 1962/3 ? in Melbourne ,I had a huge poster advertising the convention on our large window facing the street ,I don`t think anybody in our congregation had one .I also had bumper stickers on my car advertising the Convention .
and at that time we were in a housing comission house not long after we were married,I`m surprised we were never told to take it down , or for that matter somebody throwing a rock through our window .
I was proud to wear a badge , I must have been a real dickhead ,sad to say.
smiddy
i posted in another topic a few hours ago.
it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.
i was dfed back in september for adultery.
Is anybody here giving any thought to the poor bastard (brother ) she cheated on in her marriage ?
I can only imagine what he was/is going through
How would you feel if your marriage partner cheated on you so early in your marriage ? Low self esteem , alcohol dependency , drug abuse , suicidal tendency`s ,the glares and Judgemental attitudes of the witnesses in your congregation , the avoidance some give you , and the rest who just do not know what to say to you so they avoid you .?
Think about the brother who was wronged
My son went through this crap ,and my wife and I went through years of agony trying to get him through this betrayal ,his wife slept with his "best friend" , and you know what? the Elders , Co`s ,J.W.`s in his congregation were useless as far as my son was concerned and equally so with my wife and myself , that was the final nail in the coffin , they have no idea how to deal with problems.
They think the Bible gives them knowledge of everything , when in fact it gives them nothing .
smiddy
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