"Even if it isn`t the truth its still the best way to live" ....what a cop out .
Could not almost any religion say that and also it be true ?
How pathetic an apology of falsehoods .
smiddy
have you heard that old chestnut?
i have.. typically it's the last resort when you have dismantled a jws beliefs and they have no way of defending them.
they know they are beat so they come out with that one.. its effectively an admission that you are right and they have no argument but they are still going to attend meetings because they like the social club.. what a lame way to defend your faith..
"Even if it isn`t the truth its still the best way to live" ....what a cop out .
Could not almost any religion say that and also it be true ?
How pathetic an apology of falsehoods .
smiddy
just a few questions from a newbie.
answer one or as many as you want.
1. why cleaners?
OutsiderLookingin,
If every JW took seriously the negative aspects of higher education literally , the majority of witnesses would now be living on handouts / welfare from the Governments who they reject as being misled by Satan the Devil .
Come to think of it most of them are .
Jehovah`s Witnesses do not participate in Government ,however they will take what Govts. offer them .
1/ They do not participate in Charitable Organizations , however they will accept what is offered to them .
Only giving to their own members does not qualify them .
Doing menial jobs because of their lack of education , they have little or no dental or Health care , so they rely on the Government to provide these basic needs .
They have no money or savings because of the low income they have received over all these years of pioneering and having menial jobs , so , who do they rely on ? The Government to provide for them .
The only people in the main who do have above average qualifications / education are those who obtained them before converting to Jehovah` s Witnesses in the first place.
2/ The majority of JW`s go back because they are victims of emotional blackmail ,unless you come back you can not see your son , daughter , or mother , or father, or grandchildren.
3 / study and analyze 1 , and 2 of this post , and come to your own conclusion , and if you think this religion of Jehovah`s Witnesses is something to be joined because of a romantic interest in the opposite sex , think again.
smiddy
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/01/26/doomsday-clock-countdown-humanitys-end-moves-today/79347584/.
doomsday clock: 'three minutes' left until the apocalypse .
the doomsday clock, a symbolic countdown to the world’s end, stands still at three minutes until midnight, scientists announced tuesday.. it remains at the position it moved to one year ago.. that the clock moves no closer to midnight, the indicated end of humanity, remains "grave" news, its makers stressed.. "unless we change the way we think, humanity remains in serious danger," said lawrence krauss of the bulletin of the atomic scientists, the nonprofit that sets the clock.
Jehovah`s Witnesses would have had the Doomsday clock 3 minutes past Midnight on numerous occasions in their history with their revolving corner prophecy .
Just curious , where was the minute hand after 911 ?
smiddy
just in case someone wanted this letter for their records.
.. http://postimg.org/image/dn44a9m9h/.
.. petra!.
Next thing you know they will be clapping when someone dies for refusing a blood transfusion.
smiddy
"and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain.
for the old world and its evils are gone forever.
" rev.
"Jehovah is the same today as he was yesterday and will be the same tomorrow." So the scripture goes .
Satan deceived Eve and she seduced Adam to rebel against God , leaving aside Satan told some truths here ,and God did not , Humans received punishment far greater than Satan who was the instigator of this disobedience in the first place .
Humans : What punishment did they endure , Birth pangs for a woman .
Life expectancy to be reduced dramatically.
Hardship in providing for ones livelihood for family
Disease and pestilence to plague mankind from then on , some of these afflictions were so undignified and degrading that it makes you wonder how a God of love could condone such a practice on his subjects.
Satan the Devil : What punishment did he endure .?
Well apparently nothing compared to what humans had /have to endure . he was still able to confront God in a heavenly assembly talking one on one with God thousands of years later in the account of Job ,
He has not had to put up with afflictions , disease ,or anything anywhere near comparable as to what humans have endured these past thousands of years .
So on his past record I would not put my faith in God honoring his future prophecy`s regarding the so called new heavens and New earth..
He obviously favours his spiritual creation over his earthly creation , Satan ? Humans ?
Satan obviously favoured
Humans , not so much
smiddy
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
TTWSYF,
Iglesia ni Cristo ,is very similar
in doctrine , beliefs ,etc. apart from helping the poor and needy .which sets them far above the W.T. organization in their humanitarian projects.
smiddy
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
Formerbrother is nothing more or less than a Troll who has sucked in so many posters., who by his/her posts demonsrates his/her`s inability to reason rationally over any point , and just keeps going around and around in circles , not addressing any of the issues made , but just keeps trolling the same ridiculous mantra.as to what is the alternative to the J.W.`s , give me a break is this person delusional ? insane ? or both .
smiddy
Marvellous observations by all the above posters to show what charlatans these people are..
Sister Morris wearing a Sophie/Caleb pin ? Unbelievable ? no not really , just pathetic.
Good catch with the angle the photo was taken from ,obviously staged , just like experiences at Conventions .
smiddy
i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
An actual reference to the AWAKE article would be appreciated ,
They were never registered as a religion in Cuba ? Can you verify that information ?
I know that initially they never registered as a religion in Mexico , because only the Catholic Church could own their Churches , not any other religion.
So the J.W.`s operated in Mexico as a Cultural organization , for many decades and not a religion.
smiddy
for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .
christ left a ministry , or meeting .
children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).
They are excellent contributions :
Mrs R-Awaken
Muddy Waters
Coded logic.
C`mon guys any more ?
smiddy