but your welcome to come as guest we just will not talk to you stupid idiot
Do J.W.`s ever invite known apostates to the memorial ? would they ever do so ? or is that a complete no,no.?
Or is one who is classed as an apostate , one that has committed the unforgivable sin .?
If they should invite you to the memorial in their D2D work and then discover you are an apostate , do they take back that invitation ? and say you are not welcome to attend ?
Just wondering
smiddy
so even though i don't drive much because public transit is so good where i live (and parking is a living nightmare), i always had a paper taped onto my glove box that said "no blood transfusions - jehovahs witness.
see legal documentation in wallet.
going through this "wake up" process as been a very crazy, emotional experience.
I have a Medical Record Card that I carry in my wallet that states , " I reject J.W.No Blood Doctrine , I accept all medical procedures including blood products.
I am also a registered Organ Donor .
I felt this was necessary because old medical history records might show up as when I was a believer and rejected blood transfusions., so I have just now dated it 5/3/2016.
smiddy
have we noticed how often the society uses comments like this?.
"jehovah's witnesses are the most honest people...etc".
while it may be true that witnesses as a whole are decent, law abiding people, are they truely "honest" when the very foundation of beliefs are based on mistruths?.
Who are they trying to kid , OK, ,J.W.`s who don`t look at any news report ,and keep their head in the sand.
Google crimes committed by Jehovah`s Witnesses .
They have been found guilty by a Court of the Law for every crime imaginable , all over the world.
smiddy
only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.
then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.
thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.
elderess , and hubby,
The difference between J.W,`s & JWN ,as a newbie you will find that both welcome you with open arms , shower you with good wishes , and hope you stick around
.So what is the difference.?
The love and interest shown to you by the" witnesses" is conditional , so long as you believe and obey the G.B.,you are their friend ,deviate from that and your toast.
In contrast here at JWN , you can believe what you want to believe , say what you want to say , and nobody will judge you ,we may not always agree with what another says , however nobody here will shun you , the love and interest we show each other is genuine , not" conditional" upon anyone agreeing with everything we do and say.
Sometimes some of us get a bit teste with each other , however over & above all we respect the right for everyone to express their own opinion .
Enjoy your stay here , and I hope hubby feels free to comment on here as well
smiddy
only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.
then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.
thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.
What a great post elderess ,best wishes to you and your hubby in joining the real world .
An Aussie sends kudos to you both
smiddy
few of your are old enough to have been there, i suspect.
i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.. .
i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.
Terry
I often wondered about those who were imprisoned as a conscientious objector .Did you have family who were J.W.`s and supported you ? Or were your family not J.W.`s and wondered about your decision .?
How did you cope with your imprisonment for 2 years ? Obviously you were still a firm believer , after coming out you went and pioneered .
We had conscription in Australia and if I had not been balloted out as I was because of my Birth date ,I would have faced a similar situation I guess.
About that time I remember reading in the society`s publications about our Greek brothers who were imprisoned for 5 years , and when they came out and still refused military service were sentenced for another 5 years ,and another 5 years after that , in one case that I remember .
I often wonder if any of them are still around or post here , that is so tragic.
Thank you for this post.Terry
smiddy
few of your are old enough to have been there, i suspect.
i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.. .
i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.
I remember 1975 very well ,I was 36 ,and recall all too well the hype around the 6000 years and the opportune time for Jesus to begin his 1000 year rule.
I remember them also saying it could just happen before 1975 or soon after , because of not knowing exactly how long after Adam Eve was created.
After a reasonable length of time passed and nothing happened , then the society began to blame the R&F for going beyond what was written and jumping to the wrong conclusion , " Knowwhere did the organization prophecy that Armageddon would occur in 1975 " they said.
But they certainly bloody well led everybody to expect it to occur.
One other thing with the scripture "nobody knows the day or hour " The G.B. is on record as saying that since Jesus was enthroned in heaven in 1914 it is reasonable to believe that Jehovah has now confided in him of that time frame / or date .
I was aware they were not being honest about this period , and still I did not wake up till 1992
I was truly brainwashed./stupid /gullible / naive / you name it.
smiddy
for me, the dead giveaway is this.
jesus wrote nothing.. stop and think about that.. if jesus were the authentic messiah, his ministry would not simply be local.. his instructions, his mission, the details of his teachings would be too precious to risk leaving it in the hands of "men unlettered (illiterate) and ordinary (blue-collar yokels).".
jesus, were he the one and only hope of mankind, would be absolutely certain to write down with great simplicity and specificity the exact owner's manual necessary to rescue mankind.. never happened!.
Wasn`t Jesus supposedly greater than Moses ?
Moses has five books attributed to him , Jesus has none.
Moses seems to have accomplished a lot more in his lifetime than Jesus ever did.
Moses was 120 years old at his death , so if he was instrumental as a servant of Jehovah , say from 30 years of age , that means he had at least 90 years doing God`s work .Look at his service in all those years
Now compare it to Jesus service.
Jesus ? He was only 3 years in doing Gods work , and if you compare what Moses accomplished in all those years with what Jesus achieved , Moses comes up trumps.
I think the Bible shows Moses was greater than Jesus.
smiddy
i have seen a lot of new posters intro stories on here, also updates from those who have been around for a while.
i just want to take 1 post to beg those reading to speak up.
it was a big turning point for me and one of the best decisions i made.
Lurkers
If you have come across this site and are nervous , apprehensive , scared , have a guilty feeling , even think you are going to be zapped by Jehovah for taking the step of posting here , don`t worry , you are not alone .
The great majority of us have been there , we have all gone through those emotions , and their is nothing fear.
You will wish you had done it sooner.
smiddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulswb2avxvc.
let's set aside our differences for the moment and appreciate this excellent documentary cedars put together that should prove to be an invaluable tool in helping to expose the child abuse issues in the organization.. i was humbled to be able to help with this project on such an important subject, though my part in it was insignificant..
Thank you cedars ,cappytan , Lloyd , and others . for producing this video ,is there some way it can be sent to the media ? ( all forms ) and just get it out their in the public domain ? It needs widespread distribution , especially while the focus is on child sexual abuse in the U.K. , the U.S.A. and of course Australia , and elsewhere .
This is the time it needs widespread coverage , how do we do it ?
smiddy
