Posts by smiddy

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The WTBTS' "Golden Calf"

by The Searcher in

in recent months i have personally experienced 3 times how jehovah's witnesses' thinking and ad hominem attacks are being molded by their masters in the wtbts.. 1) j.w.

family members have stated that i am no longer part of the family because i say "negative things" about the org.. 2) my closest friend in my former congregation complained several weeks ago that i was "finding fault" with the org every time we had a conversation.

nothing from him since.. 3) when reverse witnessing to an elder at a trolley recently, he accused me of "criticizing the organization.".

smiddy

It`s a classic example of the Governing Body speaking out of both sides of their mouth .Here we have them admit they are not inspired nor are they infallible ,that they can err in doctrinal matters and organizatioinal direction .

How many times have we read in the Watchtower there claim to be spirit directed by God , that they , the G.B. are being used by Jehovah to deliver New Truths to the faithful by means of New Light.?

Are they not saying that the old light that was given by the holy Spirit was in fact wrong ?,that the spirit erred ?

Isn`t that the same , being spirit directed , as being inspired by God ? And if they are as they often claim to be spirit directed by Jehovah , shouldnt they then be infallible in their teachings.?

Can they really have it both ways ?

Aren`t they contradicting themselves with such statements ?

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"The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

by smiddy in

that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

" "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

smiddy

That admission in the Feb.17 ,study edition of the Watchtower , " Who is Leading Gods People Today ?" "The Governing Body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in Doctrinal matters or in organizational direction ."

Have the many Jehovahs Witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by Jehovahs Witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?

Have the family ,relatives and friends of those who lost their loved ones due to the prohibition of blood transfusions by this religion come to grips with what this admission by the organization really means ?

What they are really saying is , our doctrinal policy on no blood transfusions could be wrong , due to the fact we are not infallible and we can err.

A point to consider : The Israelites / Jews were Gods chosen people for thousands of years and under his laws , I`m sure they would have a far better more informed understanding of the Old testament than anybody else , and they are certainly more strict than any JW about eating blood..Kosher food.etc.

Many scriptures support the sanctity of life above the letter of the law., a fact that escapes the JW /GB mindset .

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JW's and the forgotten Jesus

by LevelThePlayingField in

so as i have been waking up more and more over the past 3 years...i keep telling myself i'm fully awake and then i wake up more, but that's a different thread.

but anyway, i've noticed a lot lately that the wt does not mention jesus or christ very much in their literature and neither to jw's in their conversations.

they mainly talk about jehovah.

smiddy

blondie,

I counted at least 90 times ,looking at your link where you specifically asked ",Where is Jesus " ? in your comments of the WT study articles.

The Christian Greek Scriptures / New Testament is all about '"witnessing" about Jesus , not Jehovah.,and you are right in pointing that out time and time again.

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RUSSIA: Many meetings raided and evidence planted

by ZAPPA-ESQUE in

raids on jehovah's witness premises now take place more than three times per month.

these raids on doctrinally pacifist* religious communities often involve many heavily armed and camouflaged officials, with the "discovery" of apparently planted banned "extremist" literature.

legal dissolution of communities can follow.. http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2228.

smiddy

I`m inclined to agree with Stephane here , penalise them, JW , for their violation of religious freedom.

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Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot

by Simon in

why were we ever a jw?

were we mad?

we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.

smiddy

I admit it , I was an IDIOT ,naive ,late teen ,unhappy where my life was heading ,looking for answers to the meaning of life and had a curiosity about the bible.

I was vulnerable .and was sucked in, hook line and sinker.From the first I was indoctrinated JW`s were a persecuted people , so I kept my mouth shut until I could read as much as I could of WT publications.

This was in 1959 , when it wasnt that easy to do the research that is possible today.

Finally 33 years later the penny dropped .

I know , I`m a slow learner.

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October 28, 2016 Re: Online Tour Reservation Tool for Visiting United States Bethel Facilities

by wifibandit in

october 28, 2016 to all congregations re: online tour reservation tool for visiting united states bethel facilities.

smiddy

"The 2nd exhibit deals with the history of the organization"

I guess that means their latest version of their history , the one that has had so many revisions.

Only a lying, corrupt, deceitful, organization revises their early history

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I got a voicemail from an elder about meeting with me.

by schnell in

yesterday, i missed a call and got a long voicemail from an elder who would like to meet with my wife and i some time this weekend, with another elder who dealt with my brother.

i haven't responded.

it's meeting night tonight, and my wife has already talked about staying home to do yoga with me instead.. yeah.

smiddy

As has been brought out here many times before the only power they have over you is what power you allow them to have.

In other words they have no power over you , they are nobodys in a cult religion who instills in them they are somebodys , its up to you to burst that bubble.

They are big fish in a little pond of their own making , they are delusional ,thinking they have authority over everyone.

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JW's and the forgotten Jesus

by LevelThePlayingField in

so as i have been waking up more and more over the past 3 years...i keep telling myself i'm fully awake and then i wake up more, but that's a different thread.

but anyway, i've noticed a lot lately that the wt does not mention jesus or christ very much in their literature and neither to jw's in their conversations.

they mainly talk about jehovah.

smiddy

The searcher points out that their are about 30 scriptures in the New Testament that admonish followers of JC ,to wtness about him and for him .

Their is not one (1 ) scripture in the New Testament that admonish followers of JC to witness about Jehovah

Jesus never used the name Jehovah , nor did any of the Apostles ,and not one of his Disciples.

The KI ,word for word translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures ,published by the WTB&TS ,does not have the Tetragrammaton representing the name Jehovah anywhere in it , therefore that name Jehovah does not belong in the New Testament.

It`s an unauthorised addition to the Bible

If knowing and using the personal name of God was of such importance , you would think that Jesus ,the Apostles ,and his Disciples would have made a big issue abut it ,they never used this name once ,none of them

As for Isa.43:10-12 , the Israelites never identified themselves as Jehovahs Witnesses in the 100`s of years before JC ,and that scripture was directed specifically to them , and JC never rebuked them for not identyfing themseves as JW`s.

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So I just watched Jackson's ARC interview...

by schnell in

thank you, everybody here, for introducing me to this.

no, no i had not heard of this.

child abuse issues have been roundly dismissed as apostate attacks in the congregations i've attended in the last decade.

smiddy

Welcome to the board schnell , I feel your frustration.

A couple of other interesting points that I observed .

Some Elders took an affirmative statement as opposed to taking an oath on the Bible to tell the truth.

Geoffrey Jackson on the other hand took the oath to tell the truth ,swearing on the Bible.

The Elders under question had a complete dis-interest in the process of the proceedings with one especially looking as if to wait on the Holy Spirit to put words in his mouth , words that never came.

It was very embarrasing to watch.

Another spokesperson for the JW`s was very fortunate he wasnt charged with deliberately trying to mislead the commission , which he quite frankly tried to do.

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Another Outright Lie Published 2/17 WT

by LostGeneration in

this info is from the article "who is leading god's people today" feb 17 study edition.. to help them disseminate bible truth in various languages, zion’s watch tower tract society was legally incorporated in 1884, with brother russell as president.

* he was an outstanding student of the bible, and he fearlessly exposed as false such doctrines as the trinity and the immortality of the soul.

he discerned that christ would return invisibly and that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914.. pretty sickening article overall about how badass the gb is, though this little gem is printed as well, paragraph 12. the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

smiddy

Another lie ? , "Zions Watchtower & Tract Society was Legally incorporated in 1884,with brother Russell as president"

Maybe that was true as regards the WT magazine

However

Fact :" William H.Conley was the first president of the "International Bible Students Association" later to be known as Jehovahs Witnesses . A religion that was started by C.T.Russell .

This was also true .