True james what you say , but their is also the guilt ? if thats the right word ? that i have some culpability in where she is today.
However dont get me wrong , she is also responsible for making the choice she did.
And i`m OK with that.
i called my daughter and told her, please don't encourage my granddaughter to get married until she is 30 or 40. please let her go further in her education.
art 1,algebra 11, english, tools for success, spanish 1, and health science all "a".
i have known so many jw youths that were very bright and end up working in a job well below their skill level..she is in the 9th grade but algebra 2 her class is all 11th graders.. school "technical academy hs".
True james what you say , but their is also the guilt ? if thats the right word ? that i have some culpability in where she is today.
However dont get me wrong , she is also responsible for making the choice she did.
And i`m OK with that.
as the op states why would israel /jewish nation need to have an army at all ?
if they were the chosen people as the bible states under a theocracy , why would the men of israel need an army .?
to protect them ?.
As the OP states why would Israel /Jewish nation need to have an army at all ? If they were the chosen people as the bible states under a theocracy , why would the men of Israel need an army .? to protect them ?
Couldnt Jehovah do so ?
The bible shows in many passages God coming to the aid of the Israelites , my question is why wasnt he their all the time ? to defend them ?
The argument that he only defended them when they were faithful as a nation , doesnt hold any water. why ? because when they were faithful he didnt defend them , they still had to rely on their armies to do battle with their enemies with his so called blessing.
So under the theocracy of Jehovahs Rule in the Old Testament when the Israelites were in his favour , the army of the jewish nation engaged in warfare with their enemies , which meant jews killing men women and children by piercing them with a sword at jehovahs command.
Can you imagine yourself participating in such an action today ? Killing a man won or child ? obeying Jehovah ?
Jehovah is God Almighty right ? he has shown that he can kill 185000 in one night , by his Angels ,so why would he need to have his chosen people , human beings involved in putting to death by the sword thousands of people over many centuries ?
As an Almighty God Jehovah he didnt need to involve his chosen people the Israelites in any bloodshed at all , he could have done it like he has done many times before , the fact that he did involve his subjects in this bloodshed raises some serious questions ?
What do you think tose questions could be ?
the first time i walked into a kingdom hall, i was about 15 years old.
i shook hands with a 12-year-old named quincy.
as time passed and we grew older, quincy hung out with us older j-dubs.
I`m sorry to hear of the loss of your friend Terry .....,Quincy -Quentin , 66 years of age ....to me is still far too young , obviously he had a great friend in you .
Take care , cobber.
what was it in the evolution of religion that got them so hung up about what people do with their genitalia?.
i mean, the (mis)use of genitalia is up there with murdering another human being in terms of badness.. and in the 21st century, we have a situation where in the jw religion, it's deemed as acceptable for three middle aged/old men to sit a teenage girl down and ask her the details of her use of her genitals.
to any normal person this is intrusive, completely inappropriate and bordering on deviancy.. why they so obsessed?.
ALPD , you make a good point about women should be present in such a JC with a young girl being grilled by the elders,however I dont think brainwashed JW women would of any help in this situation .
If I could make a comparison , it would be like Muslim women speaking out against female circumcission ,many willingly support it for their own daughters, a barbaric practice.
In both cases the women bow down to the men without objection ,as he is to be obeyed.
i go to a hall (very rarely) with a single cong of about 60 people in a small city of maybe 10000. our board of elders is a bunch of childless weirdos or at least the ones that make an effort.. they recently changed the sunday meeting time from 10/12 to 1/ 3. a number of us are pissed off.
its makes to hard to drive to the city or go to a football game.. i just know the gestopo elders behind the change.
if your life isnt as miserable or pointless as theirs, they arent doing their job.
Donkeys years ago the hall I was in had a similar vote and it was about 50/52 in staying the same as we were used to .Not what the elders wanted
The next week the elders held another vote with a similar result .again not what the elders wanted .
The following week the elders had another vote ,myself and a couple of others wern`t able to attend that week .
The result went in favour of the elders to change the meeting times.
We never had another vote after that.
i have always been told as a jw that trinitarians, particularly baptists, are just the worst people to argue with out in service.
i have always been told it was the world with a veil over their eyes.
the hypocritical irony is that so many witnesses are completely stubborn and willing to believe in magic before they believe anything against their dogma.
The very fact that their is still a controversey over this subject after 2000 years doesnt say much for the Almightys ability to convey his communication skills effectively does it.
i called my daughter and told her, please don't encourage my granddaughter to get married until she is 30 or 40. please let her go further in her education.
art 1,algebra 11, english, tools for success, spanish 1, and health science all "a".
i have known so many jw youths that were very bright and end up working in a job well below their skill level..she is in the 9th grade but algebra 2 her class is all 11th graders.. school "technical academy hs".
I have a niece who I encouraged to be a JW along with her sisters and mother , when she was only young.
This niece was very talented in music ,playing the violin and the piano , her school educators wanted her to pursue a career in music by enrolling her in an academy that was prepared to accept her. She refused and chose pioneering ,later married a DH ,JW and she is still living in fantasy land. She used to give solo recitals at concerts while still at school to large audiences.
Her sisters and mother are no longer JW`s and of course niether am I.
I could kick myself for encouraging her on the course she has chosen.
What a waste of talent.
P.S. DH = dickhead
ran into this lone sister in fs.
today stopped her as she was hiding her wt mag.. i went straight into child molestion and the catholics/ then switched it on the wt.
she tried to tell me all jw are told to go to the police.
Well you have certainly planted a few seeds whether they take root or not only time will tell .You never know what you said and her own personal experiences she has had and will have , will effect her.
It sounds like a good anti-witness , or a good witness for TTATT.
i`m no fitness fanatic by any stretch of the imagination though throughout my life i have strived on & off (more often than not , off ) to maintain some level of fitness activity.. i retired about 10 years ago and for the first few years i joined two table tennis clubs , social activity,though not anymore.. and i have become more of a couch potato these past few years with the internet and netflix and the club as my main concern of activity if you can call it that ,and it has been bothering me ,so finally i did something about it.. only a few doors down from me is a medical health clinic with a gym that caters for seniors like myself , so i bit the bullet and joined up .. and i`m proud of it.. if it kills me in the process then i`ll die doing what i want to do at my age.. sorry to bore you with this post ,but what did you expect a future mr. universe ?.
Zeb ,thats good to hear ,most people are friendly especially if you or they are walking a dog ,
Pardon my ignorance but whats camel-bak ? and what part of the world are you in ?
i`m no fitness fanatic by any stretch of the imagination though throughout my life i have strived on & off (more often than not , off ) to maintain some level of fitness activity.. i retired about 10 years ago and for the first few years i joined two table tennis clubs , social activity,though not anymore.. and i have become more of a couch potato these past few years with the internet and netflix and the club as my main concern of activity if you can call it that ,and it has been bothering me ,so finally i did something about it.. only a few doors down from me is a medical health clinic with a gym that caters for seniors like myself , so i bit the bullet and joined up .. and i`m proud of it.. if it kills me in the process then i`ll die doing what i want to do at my age.. sorry to bore you with this post ,but what did you expect a future mr. universe ?.
slidin Fast ,that sounds like a good idea , though like you I suppose wavering is not going to be on our agenda
See ? I`m sending positive vibes already .What part of the world are you in ?