1. attend a charity christmas party which my wife (active jw) helps to organise each year 😀.
2. buy a very small christmas tree with lights for the living room (which can easily be hidden away if jw friends are coming up).
3. buy some nice presents for my family.
I gather you are well and truly "out" and I presume your wife is in a fade ? maybe not "out" because of family still in ?
Do you both have children that you have succesfully kept from the clutches of the Borg ?
You both sound like a succesful family breakaway from the cult , do you want to divulge more ?
just curious.
hi there i don't watch much of the propaganda on jw.org anymore but i did catch the november broadcast.. i think these guys are either evil or controlled by someone who is incredibly skilled at mind control.. firstly, they establish their authority by saying "everything" else is a lie - you can't trust media or anyone.
"there is no inspiration today.." but they somehow have the direct connection with god - yuck.. then, they proceed with that disgusting "shunning" drama - but now it is not called shunning, (around 24 mins) the mother said... "if we were to stand between levi and the discipline he needs we would in affect be blocking an expression of jehovah's love from reaching him...".
i am so angry at this, what a load.
Good point Data -Dog ,probably something the A.R.C. should be be made aware of as that is still ongoing ,till the middle of next year
The november broadcast on JW.Org. about a youth Levi .being shunned by his family to discipline him as a demonstration of love for him and their love for Jehovah .
Hoping that their act of shunning/disciplne him will encourage him to return him to worshipping Jehovah .
Isnt that emotional blackmail ? an unloving act of parents against their own children ?
3 questions i hit my jw mum with:.
first question: do you believe that god is love?
third question: do you think a god of love would choose to destroy me for not doing something i cannot do (be a jw) because i am not convinced rather than convince me beyond doubt?
A typical JW response ?
You dont have enough faith ,you cant expect God to answer your prayers if you lack faith.
rather than just rely on the watchtower's latest opinions... are you ready?.
1) please read this article:.
2) if you are offended by the article's title, read this page for an explanation of what the phrase means, then go back and read it:.
And as you say Trev ,when that was written their were still people still living who were alive in 1914 etc,etc.as depicted on the front of the Watchtower magazine .
And now we know they have all died many years ago and still the end is nowhere to be found.
Of course after the event Jehovahs Witnesses came up with new light "overlapping generation" , its funny how new light always follows failed prophecys ,failed expectations
.Searcher & Simons observations are spot on.
in the story in the gospel of mark, mark writes that jesus is hungry and comes across a fig tree.
mark explains that it not in season yet jesus upon finding the fig tree has produced no fruit kills the tree.. this story makes no sense if literal so do the gun teach that it literally happened?.
Jesus could have fed a few thousand more hungry people with fish and loaves of bread and had a snack himself.
reports are coming from witnesses that, once again, the number of memorial partakers has risen considerably this past year, 2016. while confirmation is still to come on the exact numbers, the current explanations given for this increase surely causes a dilemma.. imagine the roman catholic church publishing each year the number of members who it felt were mistaken about what they believed in, that this same number of members was likely suffering from problems such as pride or even mental disorders or something along this line.
this number, by the way, was in the thousands too and growing annually.
what would you conclude, therefore about the catholic church and its admission?.
The organization of Jehovahs witnesses are obsessed with numbers as their yearbooks show to demonstrate that Jehovah is blessing his organization with increases in publishers ,Mag.distributions,bible studies ,hours ,baptisms etc,etc,
If the Catholic Church did the same thing today the results the Jehovahs witnesses publish would pale into insignificance .
On the other hand when the JW`s are forced to acknolwedge their decline in their growth ,they will change tac , and claim it is a sign that the end is very close now ,citing the scripture "in the last days the love of the greater number will cool off "
Jehovahs witnesses have always had an each way bet on their survival.
with recent events pointing at watchtower growth, i felt compelled to say a few words.. if the figures turn out to be true, then we should not be discouraged.
after 9/11 there was a surge in, not only the watchtower, but other demonisation of organised religion.
whenever there is a a paradigm shifting event that puts fear into others, this tends to have a life changing affect on an individual.. now let us zoom to the present.
For a jehovah`s witness increased numbers of publishers , bible studies ,baptisms etc, are all an evidence of Jehovah`s blessing on his modern day organization in these last days.
That is why these statistics have been a major point of every yearbook since they started them.
Look how jehovah has blessed his organization with the growths in catholic dominated countries like Spain. Italy ,Brazil , Portugal , etc look how he has opened up the work in African nations , Japan to name a few.
The figures , numbers do play a big part in JW belief that Jehovah is blessing them.
That is how it has been up to recent times , however if the numbers do go into decline as has been indicated more recently , this is how the governing body will spin it.
{ It just shows how close we are to the Great Tribulation and Armageddon , because the Scriptures say " that the love of the greater number will cool off " before the end comes .}
Jehovahs Witnesses speak out of both sides of their mouth
so sunday afternoon tea with my "anionted" mum and her old witness holy friends.
they start talking trump how he "is gonna do somthing to start armegedon.
" no sad faces about this apocalipse.
Every bit of bad news reported in the Media is proof positive to a JW , that the big "A" is just around the corner or the "GT" is here .
just thought we could have a concise thread listing the signs of a high control, or cult-like group:.
feel free to add to the list:.
the true sign of a cult-like group is:.
The leaders of the group excommunicate / disfellowship you if you question their authority and use emotional blackmail that you will be cut off from all family and friends for doing so.
a jw family member informed me they are filling out an application to preach the truth in israel.
interested ones in the congregation were asked to start saving now, as the cost of the flights would be their own responsibility.
the time frame for this preaching work is for a couple of weeks in may/june 2017. the applications are to be turned in this sunday.
Instead of a campaign to encourage JW`s to go to Israel , the people of the Book , the Old testament to give a witness , wouldnt it be more productive of them to go to the other people of the Book ?, those that embrace Islam ?
Islam has its roots in the early books of the Bible , and they recognise Jesus Christ as a prophet , something the Jewish religion does not accept , so isnt it more logical for them to engage with Muslims ? and not Jews ?
Their has to be a fertile field in Muslim countries that have some connection with the bible and has been largely ignored by Christianity and especially by Jehovahs Witnesses , who make the claim they have witnessed to the whole world .
They have made little impact in nations such as Pakistan , India , China , Bangladesh , let alone Muslim countrys. depite the spin to the contrary .
When you work it all out JW`s have probably only covered abou 1/3rd of the planet in their witnessing , and most of that has already been covered by Christendoms Religions Centuries before them
And all the JW`s have really done is poached off those that have laid the basis for belief before them .
