Posts by smiddy

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devil question

by Carol1111 in

i had a discussion with 4 jws today and they told me that jesus could not be tempted, ( they say that he would not be perfect if he could) but also they told me that satan tempted jesus in the wilderness.. can anyone clarify their beliefs please.

i like to give them a reasoned argument when i talk to them, but have never noticed this conflict of ideas before..

smiddy

Isnt it true that the Old Testament does not identify" Satan" as any one being ,Angel , God , Spirit being or otherwise ?

The personification of Satan as a fallen Angel is non existent in the Old Testament writings ,it was only introduced in the Christian Era of the New Testament.?

Isnt that correct ?

That the Jews ,Israelites ,Gods chosen people for four thousand years with Jehovah dealing with them with revelations prophets and being under his Theocracy with the Priesthood ,never informed them that Satan was a fallen Angel out to mislead them.

He kept this from them for four thousand years ?

It seems to contradict the Old Testament that a fallen Angel Satan tempted Jesus.

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Prophecy_ Initial Fullfilment -later Fullfilment -Matt.24:34

by smiddy in

just a simple observation ,the wt used to say that their was an initial fullfilment of bible prophecy and a later fullfilment for our day and that they mirrowed each other.. do they still say much of the same thing ?.

the initial fullfilment of matt.24:34 took place in well under 50 years from when jesus gave this prophecy , a (one ) generation .. no overlapping of a generation occured then ,so none should occur in a later fullfilment of prophecy.. their is no room in scripture , in the first century of an overlapping generation of the initial fullfilment of jesus prophecy.. no such thing occured ..

smiddy

Just a simple observation ,the WT used to say that their was an initial fullfilment of Bible prophecy and a later fullfilment for our day and that they mirrowed each other.

Do they still say much of the same thing ?

The initial fullfilment of matt.24:34 took place in well under 50 years from when Jesus gave this prophecy , A (one ) generation .

No overlapping of a generation occured then ,so none should occur in a later fullfilment of prophecy.

Their is no room in scripture , in the first Century of an overlapping generation of the initial fullfilment of Jesus prophecy.

No such thing occured .

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Will the GB ever humble themselves as Jesus admonished in Matt 20 20-28

by UnshackleTheChains in

in his book crisis of conscience, raymond franz likened the governing body to the proverbial 'iron fist in a velvet glove'.

this would seem harsh if it weren't for the fact that there is ample proof that their policies and teachings have caused much pain amongst the friends.

for example, many families have been torn apart through their shunning policy.

smiddy

As VI said No & Yes , and as tepid ..says how humble is anyone who has never said I`m sorry ( in over 100 years of lording it over their flock ) with wrong prophecys ,wrong Holy Spirit directions ,wrong directions from the enthroned King Christ Jesus since 1914

I hate to think what Paradise is going to be like with an incompetent Jesus Christ as King and the 144000 JW`s as his King priests.

Holly Crap.

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Why Is The Governing Body Moving Corporation Headquarters Out In The Boonies Away From Public Veiw?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think the decision to move to a more secluded place was probably started taking shape right after silentlambs march at headquarters in clear public view of their neighbors.

i mean how do you respectively live something like this down in front of all those neighbors close by?

that's why i think they are heading for the boonies because deep down they know that their public reputation will only go from bad to worse at this late date of the faithful & discreet slave of god con game.

smiddy

I think both points of view are valid the bad publicity in NY and also the Dollar $$$$ from there property sales.

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Vatican launches website for preventing clerical sex abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2016/12/06/vatican-launches-website-preventing-clerical-sex-abuse/.

inés san martín .

december 6, 2016 vatican_correspondent.

smiddy

Eight men and eight women from different parts of the world make up the Catholic Commission to address the matter of child sexual abuse in their religion.

The WTB&TS could learn a lot from the Catholic Church ,while in the past they have had an abysmal record in this regard Jehovahs Witnesses may have an even greater abysmal record if you made a ratio comparison comparing numbers.

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awake 12/8/2004 p 28

by gerry in

just doing research and came across this.. i know this is old however.

here we have a worldly organisation distributing pamphlets and warning parents about child abuse.. last point in particular.

3) inform the child that what happened is against the law and that it is necessary to report it to the police so that it will not happen again.. pretty straight forward if you ask me.. watchtower were happy to use that in their magazine.

smiddy

Just another example of the WT Org. speaking with a forked tongue .

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So when will the Society produce a comedy video on JWorg?

by stuckinarut2 in

so according to 1 tim 1:11 jehovah is supposed to be a "happy god".. so when will we see "his people" produce a comedy video of some sort for the website?.

if you could propose an idea or storyline, what would it be?.

smiddy

I agree nowwhat ,that Steven Lett IS the comedy channel .Albeit unintentionally .

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JW org Legal Developments Menu Silent on Australian Royal Commission of Inquiry

by steve2 in

go to the legal developments menu on jw org.

click on legal developments by region.

you will find several countries listed where the ministry and practice of jws is banned and/or constrained.

smiddy

Typical ploy of the WT Borg ,ignore it and hide it from the faithful .Why advertise they have a serious problem with the ARC ,best not to say anything about it, Jehovah will sort it out soon and it will all blow over.

Then again pigs might fly, or Armageddon might come

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Steven Unthank and his work.

by WHATSGOINGON in

hi everyone, .

i have been trying really hard to find the court case transcript where steven unthank was in court in australia and one of the wt lawyers or a wt spokesperson said the faithful and discreet slave does not exist.. i hope that this is correct i remember reading about this a long while back and would love to get evidence of this.. i found steven on facebook and messaged him about 6 months ago and he didn't respond, he probably wants to let all this go, and i don't blame him for that.. any suggestions would be very much appreciated.. thanks wgo..

smiddy

And the average JW going from d2d has know idea of this interpretation from the Governing body /legal department, or how this affects their overall beliefs ,

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4 million year old superbug in a cave in New Mexico

by schnell in

http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/12/10/504691357/million-year-old-hero-bug-emerges-from-cave.

this is pretty fascinating.

paenibacillum is not pathogenic, but is absolutely battle-hardened as far as bacteria go, having spent 4 million years in a 1600' deep cave that takes 10,000 years to get water from the surface and never sees sunlight..

smiddy

It sounds like the mentality of a die -hard Jehovahs Witness ...............Sorry I couldnt help myself,

JW`s claim they see the light getting brighter and brighter ,bacteria seems to be way ahead of them.

Will have a more serious look at it Later