When I first saw this post I thought too long to read .
Then I read a paragraph here then their, then I read another paragraph and another here and their,and finally I read the lot.
A lovely post ,well done , your humanity shone through .
Take care.
i guess at this point in time and space i'm ok if there's an indication of things going in the right direction.. my jw father, who joined the jws in 1973 when i was 8, has always had all the characteristics of the stereotypical brainwashed born again weirdo.
as a jw he always felt the need to show that he was more devoted than the rest of the crop.
to him, life became very easy from that point on: "the bible", interpreted by the millions of wt publications, along with the information in the meetings and getting involved in all jw activities, were the answer to everything and anything in his life".
When I first saw this post I thought too long to read .
Then I read a paragraph here then their, then I read another paragraph and another here and their,and finally I read the lot.
A lovely post ,well done , your humanity shone through .
Take care.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5_v9rt8ar8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzninnuu90chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_87zoeaus4https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/don_rickles.
He was very funny
RIP Don
greetings, word lovers:.
in my job, i work with words and wrangle them into shape, well, in a manner of speaking.
one word might be mistaken for another, a word with either a similar or identical sound.
My wife chided me once for pronouncing Gestapo as Jestapo in a talk I gave once .(does that count ?)
How about chow (food )
Ciao (hello/goodbye )
both pronounced the same
Ok that doesnt count,
Their /there
Hear /here
Slaughter / laughter
daughter /draught / draft
what i don't get about the russian petition action:.
watchtower launched at march, 21 the petition action.. in the instructions they write it can take 14 days for postal arrival in russia.. on april, 5 they expect legal clarification from the supreme court.. so, conclusion: the letters will arrive just around the day of clarification.. conclusion: this action is planned for media impact only.
if it was to make judges think, (what they don't do on a petition cry), .
It could be effective when there were made concessions. Like between China and the Watchtower during the 90's, when the Watchtower changed their definition of the word "Kingdom", for negotiation with the government.
Sorry Gorbatchov i`m not aware of this could you please elaborate on it ?
who are more gullible, believers in santa or the ones in "the serpent"?
an old man that delivers gifts?
quite possible, grandpa does it all the time!
OK I admit I was the more gullible ,I believed in the talking snake though I dont think I ever really believed in Santa Clause .
What does that make me ? Now I would say stupid.
But at least I have been cured ,or have I ?
i've been thinking about this the past few days and curious what the honest consensus is here just for fun.. show of hands,.
is the governing body.... a: completely sincere.
they really do believe what they teach.. b: somewhat sincere.
I dont think any of them are now sincere believers , however they have invested so much time and effort into promoting the JW brand ,pride/loss of face is preventing them from ever giving it up.
Also
Its a lifestyle they and their wives have become accustomed to and they are reluctant to give that up given their age and what else could they do now.
And so they will keep the the farce up as long as they can knowing their is no Jehovah ,no Jesus that is ever going to ask an account from them.
what i don't get about the russian petition action:.
watchtower launched at march, 21 the petition action.. in the instructions they write it can take 14 days for postal arrival in russia.. on april, 5 they expect legal clarification from the supreme court.. so, conclusion: the letters will arrive just around the day of clarification.. conclusion: this action is planned for media impact only.
if it was to make judges think, (what they don't do on a petition cry), .
Singing and praying in a KH may not be extreme however claiming the Russian government will be overthrown by Gods Kingdom (interpretation needed here) according to Bible prophecy might just do that.
Also
Encouraging potential new members/Bible studies not to be involved in politics ,the military ,reject higher education ,dont be engaged in sports ,isolate yourself from the general community in all activities ,and regard all others other than Jehovahs Witnesses as tools of the Devil , no wonder they are regarded as an extreme religious dangerous group that should be curbed .
(for the record, i’m agnostic who is earnestly seeking an objective, honest and concrete hope for something greater).
“there is evidence of a creator if you just look for it”.
many of us have heard similar sentences from believers regarding proof of creator, proof that their religion is the correct one, proof that their particular sect is the right one, proof that their individual sects interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one, proof that their own personal interpretation of a certain religious text is the right one; the list goes on.. in one of my previous posts, i shared the following thought of mine:.
Whether an individual believes in a personal creator or not depends on two things.
1. An individual WANTS to believe a personal creator exists for many and varied reasons including faith.
2.An individual does not see any verifiable evidence that proves beyond any reasonable doubt that such a being exists and has no faith that such a being exists.
Just my 2 cents worth in a nutshell .
first the bible students represented an insulated layer.
they were the faithful and discreet slave of jehovah who were expected to guide the people in all matters of overall import.
but eventually someone noticed that in the first century, the seven churches were not independent, but had a council to guide them in weightier matters.
I do not believe this organisation could ever go autocratic ,they, the GB and probably their Lawyers would have made this an impossability.
Autocratic rule means losing control of all the congregations worldwide and each congregation being responsible for their own congregants , or am I in error here.
However I could see the lawyers taking over this religion and using it for their own means ($$$$$$)
so the brother that works in my office was talking about this russia thing, how jeh is "allowing" it to happen, how every witness is writing a letter to all six officials and not just to two or three, so my question was if that is true "aren't all you witnesses working against jehovah---he must have his reasons for allowing it to happen.
back to work but i'm sure monday he'll have an answer like what a great witness it is or how it gives every other witness a chance to demonstrate their faith (by writing letters).
i'll have an answer ready for him just for fun.. i'm sure watchtower just loves stuff like this russia business.
Why dont they just practise what they preach ?
"LEAVE IT IN JEHOVAHS HANDS , HE WILL FIX IT IN HIS OWN DUE TIME".