Welcome hongkong123,for a young person you have a mature insight ,stick around I`m sure many young ones and us "oldies" will benefit from your input in this forum,
Posts by smiddy
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(Young) Personal Experience of Leaving JW as a Baptised Brother
by hongkong123 ini was a baptised brother born in a jw family with my dad as the elder.
i left (or fade) a year ago and i am still a student studying in college.
i would like to post something here since i have quite a complicated feeling after a year out.
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Jehovahs Witness organization were never approved by Jesus Christ in 1919
by smiddy inaccording to jehovahs witness beliefs/doctrines , dont they acknowledge that the international bible students association , ibsa , were the ones with charles taze russell as the president as being the organization that jesus christ appointed over all his belongings and nominated them as the one true religion to dispense food at the proper time ?.
when joseph f rutherford took over the organization contrary to charles taze russells instructions regarding a successor did that negate the appointment that jesus christ gave ?
i think so .how about you.. and then changing the name that jesus christ gave his blessing to the ibsa for jehovahs witnesses under j.f.rutherford to change that name which was pre-christian and has no basis in the new testament which is all about witnessing acknowledgeing and highlighting the name of jesus above every other name as is stated time and time again in the christian greek scriptures,.
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smiddy
According to Jehovahs Witness beliefs/doctrines , dont they acknowledge that The International Bible Students association , IBSA , were the ones with Charles taze Russell as the president as being the organization that Jesus Christ appointed over all his belongings and nominated them as the One true Religion to dispense food at the proper time ?
When Joseph F Rutherford took over the organization contrary to Charles taze russells instructions regarding a successor did that negate the appointment that Jesus christ gave ? I think so .how about you.
and then changing the name that Jesus Christ gave his blessing to the IBSA for jehovahs Witnesses under J.F.Rutherford to change that name which was pre-Christian and has no basis in the New Testament which is all about witnessing acknowledgeing and highlighting the name of Jesus above every other name as is stated time and time again in the Christian Greek Scriptures,
Not forgetting the name of Jehovah is never mentioned in the word for word translation of the Christian greek scriptures the KI published by the WTB&TS. compared to about 30 times where the name Jesus Christ is highlighted and is to be witnessed about and his name is to be spread abroard.
And not one word about Jehovah
Doesnt this information negate any claim jehovahs Witnesses have on jesus Christ approving them in 1919 ?
Jehovahs Witnesses didnt exist then ,only the International Bible Students Association , IBSA
The Jehovahs witnesses are a completely seperate ,different organization than the International Bible Students Association.
Your thoughts ? please.
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I appreciate "our" free speech.
by The Rebel ini had given serious consideration too leaving the board.
i rationalised my views on " muslims" we're not held by the majority so i should leave.
but this would have been wrong thinking, instead i should appreciate the platform i was given to debate with free speech.
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smiddy
Hey, The Rebel , I`m glad you had second thoughts about leaving this board .This is a discussion Board so we all have a right to our opinion even if its not appreciated by the majority on the board .
While by far the majority of us are ex-JW`s some have become atheists others have joined different churches and one or two or more have the jewish faith ( I dont think we have any muslims on this board )
Some topics emit a more emotional response than others.and I think we just have to accept and live with that and not take things personal after all the majority of us do not know who the hell we are anyway.
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Breaking News, London: Van Ploughs into Pedestrians
by Simon in3 male passengers then get out and start stabbing / shooting people according to early reports.. but it could have been anyone for any reason, who knows, possibly jehovahs witnesses or amish.. maybe we'll never know the reason but i'm sure there will be people praying for those involved and hashtags.. thus solving the problem once and for all.. just "life in a big city" according to the muslim mayor of london, sadiq khan..
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smiddy
Are you missing the point here The Rebel ? or am I ?
The way I see it its not the Muslims who are staging the "fake" protest thats in question its the Journalists TV crews of CNN who have staged this "protest" to gain ratings in their news segments.
So its not Muslims per se we are outraged about though they may have been implicit, its the CNN`s news team that should hold their head in shame for staging this farce.
Just saying.
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Police cordon around Honiton's Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses after fatal stabbing
by ShirleyW inhey uk folks, what's going with this story?
was it an unbelieving mate that attacked and elder or something?.
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smiddy
No more news about this crime ? Anybody from the UK ?
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1914 is the Key !
by Phizzy ini thought this deserved its own topic.
it is a thought that occurred to me as i read the wt rag that i took to be polite.. it is the public one about the 4 horseman, and it struck me that they are still 100% reliant on their false 1914 doctrine to hang everything on.. if 1914 is proved wrong, what can the credibility of their doomsday message hang on ?.
we all know how to disprove the old 2520 years nonsense, but they seem to at last be hiding that, and simply claiming that world events prove jesus slung the devil out of heaven in 1914.. so, what has that old devil done since 1914, 103 years ago ?.
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smiddy
How does Jesus being made King in 1914 sit with Satan as the God of this system of things when Jehovah appointed the superior authorities to law and order among the population .
And Christians are to be in subjection to them because its Gods arrangement. Rom.:ch.13
Not only do JW`s speak out of both sides of their mouth apparently the Bible does also.
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Do JW Public Family Obituary Notices Include Names of Disfellowshipped Family Members
by steve2 ini have read some heart-rending accounts on this forum - and on reddit - of ex-jws not finding out about the deaths of their jw family members - especially elderly fathers or mothers - until sometimes weeks after the deaths, if at all.
and even then, they learn of the deaths via tersely communicated messages delivered probably due to a skerrick of remaining conscience by the jw-family spokesperson that the "decent" thing is to let the disfellowshipped individual know their own father or mother has died.. a whole range of painful issues are stirred up by that topic alone.
but it has also raised in my mind other related issues:.
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smiddy
steve2 ,i think you already know the answer to your quesion .however it would be good to get actual occurences.
Not that I have any examples either pro or con ,the many feedbacks on similar posts on this forum would suggest that active JW`s would not recognise a DF person in an Orbituary notice whether they are the deceased or a family member of the deceased.
If they dont acknowledge them while they are alive ,why would they acknowledge them in death ?
Just saying..
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Family dynamics and cult influence
by longgone inthe following incident is nothing unusual to any jw, but i wanted to add on to the list of reasons to never join, and sympathize with those stuck in it, and again a reminder that you can never get away from the mayhem when you have family still in.
in a recent conversation with my jw sister who i love very much, i was reminded how complex and abnormal relationships can become within a jehovah's witness family.families relationships can be difficult with any religion or none, but once we throw in the various labels and restrictions within the jw family it becomes really cultish.
no one outside it could begin to understand.
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smiddy
I know , its very hard to comprehend the logic of a die-hard , true-blue Jehovahs witness
.I think a study of their brains might elicit some valuable information by Physchologists ,physchiatrists or nuerologists ,surely something must be amiss .
Take care Lg
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I took a Watchtower Rag !
by Phizzy ini accepted a wt mag/rag from a bro i have known for decades just to be polite.
i asked him if he would like my comments on it sometime, he said he would listen, (yea maybe he will hear, but not really listen and absorb what i have to say.).
the interesting thing is, they are getting better, the borg,there was only one "half quote" where they select what they want from a source, and ignore the rest of what the source says.. and only one blatant lie.. it was the mag about the 4 horsemen, and a supplementary article makes the false claim that " archaeology repeatedly supports the bible's historical accuracy".. this is typical jw borg propaganda speak.
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smiddy
How about the claim that the sun stood still in Joshua's day ? The sun always stands still in relation to the earth and always has.
The earth revolves around the sun and not the reverse,giving the impression the sun moves across the sky when in fact its the earth turning that gives this impression.
The scripture should have said the sun appeared to stand still
Whatever way you look at it completely un scientific To stop the earth rotating to give the impression of the sun standing still would have destroyed all life on earth as we know it.
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Lots of newbies posting! Welcome one and all!
by freddo inis there something going on in jaydub land that has brought this on?
hope so!.
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smiddy
I add my warm welcome to all the newbies also ,and its not just young ones who are waking up but some old timers.