Posts by smiddy

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JUNE 2017 Watchtower - Lost a loved one? Go out in service!

by pale.emperor in

apparently going to the kingdom hall and getting out in the door to door ministry is the best way to get over the loss of a loved one.

who'dve thunk it?.

stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/80e3cef960fd4eee9fd5cd757c438581.html

smiddy

millie210

A way for the article writers to help underscore their attempt to identify the biblical Hannah with their fictitious "Ann" in the readers mind.

When I saw the girl being helped was named "Paula" I left off reading looking for some mention of Paul and BAM. Yep theres the reference to Paul. LOL

Thats a great find I would never have picked that up.

The deceptions the WT articles go to and decieve their readers is evil and knows no bounds.

you dont notice all the little "tie ins" and cross overs they are throwing at you.

thanks for bringing this to my attention millie210

,i`m sure others will also.

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Whether Jesus was a historical figure or not matters not

by venus in

when i suffered some loss what jesus said came to my mind: “if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also.” (mathew 5:40) principle behind this statement made flash to me: ‘here shirt is only a symbol of material things/comfort.

if you suffer a loss, have the mind-set that i have no problem even if i suffer some greater loss,’ and my worry immediately disappeared.

whether jesus was a historical figure or not matters not if what he (supposedly) said happens to be of great practical help..

smiddy

So what you are actually saying venus is that you can take the sayings of any mythical character in literature and apply it to yourself so long as its of benefit to you or anybody else.

That might be well and true to some extent ,however you wouldnt mould/build your whole life around that mythical character in literature would you ?

Their are plenty of authours who write about mythical characters that come out with pure gems in how to live ,be moral ,altuistic .and spend there life in the interests of others.

We dont worship them,or waste our life following such ficticious characters do we ?

Maybe your/our life would be more enhanced if we moulded our lives on the wise sayings of real life people that have ever lived. Without idolising them or worshipping them .

Just saying.

Edit to add : If I havent welcomed you before I do so now

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The number of translations boast

by Just stopping by in

just stopping by to share this... .

after seeing a watchtower representative paste the same thing over and over, about jw.org being available in 850 languages.... we all know how the watchtower loves to boast about the number of languages it translates into.

what are the facts?

smiddy

How do the Gideon Bible Society compare with these statistics because they distribute Bibles to Motels / Hotels etc all around the world among other places.

I remember when i was in over 25 years ago the JW`s tried to place Bibles in Motels in opposition to the Gideons .I dont know that it ever took off really.

I hope not.

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Do You Have Any Indoctrinated Guilt Left Over?

by pale.emperor in

i voted this morning for the first time.

at 32yo i wondered in a church of england parish hall with no idea what i was doing.

everyone else knew how to do it.

smiddy

For the first few years i had guilt /apprehension about what i was doing ,however in time it passes especially when you research how JW`s are just another American religion that sprung up in the late 18th century and is no more inspired by any God than ,Mormons ,Christadelphians,SDA`s or any other crackpot religion.

Free yourselves from religious superstitions and you will have no guilt.

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A First for Mrs Phizzy !

by Phizzy in

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mrs phizzy voted for the first time today !

we have been out for nearly a decade now, but this is the first time mrs phizzy has been persuaded to vote.. she was always afraid that jw's would see her, and then df her for it, i explained (again, we have been over this before) that they would not do so, and my son had a word in her ear too, which did the trick.. she came out of the polling station and said to me "i voted for someone called teresa may, who is she ?".

trying to wind me up, but i knew the wicked witch of westminster was not on our ballot sheet.

smiddy

Well done mrs phizzy.As a Jw you, in effect voted for Gods kingdom under Christ Jesus for all those years ,with no tangible results.

At least casting a vote in your country for your preferred candidate you will see some results whether they are what you were hoping for or not , you had a say in what govt. system was going to operate for the next x amount of years.

Contrast that with supporting/voting for the King Christ Jesus ,he`s mute ,done nothing ,and hasn`t outlined his policies for the "new System" in over 100 years

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Did You Know You Can Have Seizures While You Sleep and Not Know It?

by David_Jay in

i have to take some time off even from some of my favorite activities for a while...that means here...until i can adjust to a new medical therapy.. i just learned today that i have nocturnal epilepsy and have been having seizures almost every night for several decades!

wow!

just started medication that will mess me up when it comes to processing my thinking and typing for a while, so until that straightens out i will just have to read for now.. but look it up.

smiddy

Wow ,I`m so sorry , take care DJ , and yes I will look it up.

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UK Terrorists attacks

by Phoebe in

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i don't know if anyone has talked about this yet, forgive me if they have.

but i am just so, so sad that yet more innocent lives have been so brutally taken.

we've now had three attacks in three months and there has been countless terror attacks stopped by the police.. my jw acquaintances see these attacks as proof the end is near.

smiddy

Yes phoebe ,it will get better as time moves on.but its really up to you.Educate yourself about the control JW`s have over people.and the fear hopelessness they instill in people always preying on the negatives in society and the vulnerable people to exploit them .

Jw`s always look for the negative things that happen in society to instill fear and hopelessnes ,never do they highlight the positive things that happen in society as that doesnt fit their agenda,

Did the fact that cain killed Abel prove the end was near ? What i am saying is you can look at any period in history of bad things happening and you could say the end must be near

Jehovahs witnesses have been milking this belief for over a hundred years and their interpretation of prophecy is still nowhere matched by world events .

Their claim : Religion will be done away with before the nations attack Jehovahs witnesses .

Is their any sign of that ? now or in the immediate future ? I dont think so. Think about it.

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JWs and Pacifism

by pale.emperor in

pacifismˈpasɪfɪz(ə)mnoun: pacifismthe belief that war and violence are unjustifiable and that all disputes should be settled by peaceful means.. .

one thing that always irked me as a witness was their pacifism.

i totally agree that non violence is a wonderful way to live, but at the same time whenever i'd read or watch something about nazi germany i always thought being a pacifist in that environment wouldn't work.

smiddy

I can only relate to my time as a JW from the 1960`s to 1993 ,

JW`s do not engage in supporting a nation in war because we only have allegiance to one govt./King under Christ Jesus.And you cannot serve two masters

Jehovahs Witnesses are neutral to the affairs of the politics of the nations because jesus is our king and we owe our allegiance to him alone.

On the other hand it has been stated in WT publications during this time that if a JW household was targeted in a crime they have every and any means available to them to protect their family from harm ,in doing so they are not violating their neutrality as regards Govts or loyalty to Jesus kingship but simply protecting their family from homegrown violence.or crime.

In other words if some criminal died invading a JW home in a home invasion he could very well be wihin his rights and no sanctions would be against him for protecting his family

And no law of the land would hold him accountable either.

justifiable homicide

So he`s not a pacifist.

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1914 is the Key !

by Phizzy in

i thought this deserved its own topic.

it is a thought that occurred to me as i read the wt rag that i took to be polite.. it is the public one about the 4 horseman, and it struck me that they are still 100% reliant on their false 1914 doctrine to hang everything on.. if 1914 is proved wrong, what can the credibility of their doomsday message hang on ?.

we all know how to disprove the old 2520 years nonsense, but they seem to at last be hiding that, and simply claiming that world events prove jesus slung the devil out of heaven in 1914.. so, what has that old devil done since 1914, 103 years ago ?.

smiddy

Does the Bible " say" what it means ?

Does the Bible " mean" what it says.?

Their are just so many scriptures that are open to interpretation by "scholars " and is the reason we have something like 30-40,000 different Christian sects in the world today most of which claim to be the "true" religion.

Jehovahs Witnesses were not the only ones who thought God turned his attention to act out his plan in the late 1800`s .and none have ever been validated by God.

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Lots of newbies posting! Welcome one and all!

by freddo in

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is there something going on in jaydub land that has brought this on?

hope so!.

smiddy

Something is going on, I don't know if this has been mentioned on this Thread, but 20 left at once from a Congregation in the North of England,? it's on Facebook.

Hi Phizzy ,can you elaborate on that ? ( I`m not on FB ,refuse to go back on) it.Sounds like an amazing develpoment to have happened for that to have occurred.
20 leaving in one congregation at the same time just seems mind boggling.to me.